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Russia diplomat says Ukraine wouldn't have attacked Nord Stream without US approval (www.reuters.com)

submitted 3 weeks ago by Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win to c/ukraine@sopuli.xyz

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MOSCOW, Aug 16 (Reuters) - Russia's ambassador to Washington said on Friday that he did not believe Ukraine would have attacked the Nord Stream gas pipelines without the tacit approval of the United States, and that Russia would identify and punish those behind the attack.

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[–] Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Achtung! Seien Sie zivil.

[–] CJOtheReal@ani.social 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Junge was zum Teufel, lösch doch die falsch informationen und anti Ukraine propaganda und nicht die Leute die das entsprechend angreifen. Finde ich ehrlich mega cringe und kontraproduktiv zu "civility"

Im übrigen kann ich allen empfehlen die gelöschten Kommentare im modlog nach zu lesen. Sehr wahr.

[–] Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The message wasn't the issue. It was how it was said. Share your opinions freely so long as they aren't pro-invader and are respectful.

[–] CJOtheReal@ani.social 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's just... wow.

Guy talks complete shit, people tell him to shut up and they get banned... Bro that's not the moderation standards you should strive towards. Especially because this IS supporting of Russia, tbh, between the lines, but still, it is.

[–] Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Mods are not Gods. We do not have universal knowledge. If someone is spouting garbage, point why, preferably back it up with evidence, and above all do so respectfully.

Far as I can tell they were arguing that the pipe sabotage was pointless as the pipes were mostly unused, and that it harms relations with a friendly and prominent nation and consequently jeopardizes NATO/EU membership. Sounds like a cogent argument that I personally don't like but am not going to censor unless they are rude.

Next time: show that the pipes were in use (they obviously were), that the perpetrators have not been shown to be sanctioned by the UA government as of yet, and that despite the damage Germany has been a faithful supporter even beyond discovery of who the agents were believed to be. Just do so without using direct insults. Not difficult or unreasonable.

[–] CJOtheReal@ani.social 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It kinda is unreasonable to expect users to argue with every troll.

Oh and im not the one that was banned, i just saw this thread where up voted comments where removed and BS was left standing.

Furthermore i do not believe that shut up or delete your account (lösch dich) is unreasonably rude.

[–] Ooops 0 points 3 weeks ago

An welcher Stelle war ich das nicht? Ich war nicht derjenige mit "Halt die Klappe" und "Bist du gesoffen?", sondern habe mich im Gegenteil bemüht, klare Argumente zu liefern und darzustellen, wie die Tatsachen von Narrativen verzerrt wurden. Scheinbar wohl vergeblich (ich kann die erhaltenen Antworten ja nicht mehr lesen...).