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[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's all nuance until you start criticizing a politician's stance on the matter. Then it's we don't have room for nuance because:

  • You will let the fascists win
  • We are too constrained to do anything
[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)
  1. There are two choices in the United States 2024 election. No third party stands a ghost of a chance of winning. No, not even if the 30,000 people you can reach on Lemmy all vote for Timothy Greenparty.
  2. A Trump victory in 2024 would not only be just as bad if not worse for the citizens of Gaza than Harris would, but also pose an existential threat to a large number of vulnerable Americans (trans people, immigrants, women seeking abortions).
  3. Given the margins of victory in 2016 and 2020, Kamala might not win if leftists don't vote for her.
  4. Snoozing fascism for four years is better than inviting it through the door now, and buys us time to build our defenses for when it comes back.

I'd like to focus my counterargument. Which of these statements do you disagree with?

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 1 points 3 months ago

I disagree that critiquing Kamala automatically makes me a 3rd party voter. I'm vote blue no matter who, but I can see that explaining the trolley problem isn't working at the moment.