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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Throughout human history, laws have never stopped conservatism. Jails have never stopped conservatism. Pacifism has never stopped conservatism. Only force has ever stopped conservatism. Only force.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Careful or you'll get called a tankie

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

People get called that when they're pretending to be far left while urging everyone to take the exact actions the Repubs want them to take.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Is this code for "people who aren't voting for Joe Biden"?

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

that would be people who are essentially voting for trump, so yeah, why not.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's code for "antifascist" "leftists" who are urging people to do the exact same things that the Republican party wants them to do.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

urging people to do the exact same things

Specifically, which things?

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you're upset about being called a tankie, you could cross-reference what you are urging people to do with what the Republican party wants people to do. And then stop that.

In general I would recommend being antifascist in a way that isn't the exact same actions as overt fascism with the only difference being the rhetoric justifying the actions.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

What am I urging people to do?

[–] Censored@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Tankie is the pro-authoritarian left. The Stalinists essentially. The ones who think it's appropriate to send in the tanks to quell a socialist or communist uprising because it has a tint of democracy in it, which may cause their strong leader to lose dictatorial power.

[–] Pips@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Tankies are literal authoritarians. People say they're "authoritarian communists," which ignores they're mostly Maoists or Stalinists, both of whom were closer to fascism than the left. It sort of ignores the basic premise of communism or even socialism to have a single authoritarian ruler. Kind of like how the Nazis called themselves socialists. I guess they were a workers' party to start, but I don't think you can reasonably conflate their ideology with the tenets of socialism.

[–] nyctre@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No, you don't understand. The problem is that those people haven't had enough time to bring upon real communism. Real communism hasn't been reached yet. They want to let the Maos and Stalins of the world have enough time to reach communism. Things will surely be different with the next guy.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago

That's certainly a take