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In a statement, Hamas claimed several reasons for its decision: the new conditions and demands presented recently by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli assassination of Hamas political leader Ismail Haniyeh and recent Israeli airstrikes in Gaza that killed dozens of Palestinians, many of them civilians.

"In light of this, and out of concern and responsibility towards our people and their interests, the movement calls on the mediators to submit a plan to implement what they presented to the movement and approved on July 2, based on Biden's vision and [UN] Security Council resolution," Hamas said in its statement.

The group said additional rounds of negotiations or discussing new proposals "provide cover for the occupation's aggression."

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[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 35 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Not disband. Disarm and become political party IF a 2 state solution was agreed to.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 13 points 2 months ago

Thank you for the correction

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Isn’t that exactly what israel are looking for.

I mean the problem is Hamas would likely not make palestine a democracy, but you can’t win everywhere.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Maybe on paper. IRL, they want that land, and they've determined that they're done killing a little at a time to get it. There are already plans to redevelop the newly occupied parts of Gaza. I wonder if they'll even bother digging the bodies out of the rubble or just pave over it all and have done. There's a reason why Nettanyahu funneled millions to HAMAS. The worst outcome for him, politically, is a two-state solution. He needs an excuse to commit genocide and get the rest of the land. That's partly why they weren't interested in HAMAS laying down arms; it's counter to their goals.

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 5 points 2 months ago

Were it so easy. Israel isn't a monolith. Some parties would be okay with a 2 state solution, others demand keeping the status quo, others want Palestine gone. There's also the issue that if peace with Hamas is achieved Netanyahu's personal situation becomes far more jeopardized.

Personally, I think a 2 state solution withdrawing Israel to the OG green line with a UN Security Council enforced peace agreement between them is the acceptable solution but I'm not holding my breathe.