this post was submitted on 05 Aug 2024
484 points (97.1% liked)

politics

19170 readers
4615 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

On X, political commentator Ed Krassenstein, a frequent Trump critic, commented on the change of opinion about polling numbers among the former president's supporters.

"MAGA is breaking down. They are back to calling the polls fake just because they don't reflect what they want them to say," Krassenstein wrote. "It's funny how they touted the polls when Trump was up."

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] 242@lemmy.cafe 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Nah, I hate this narrative. I'm sure he thought he would win, but I think it would have been pretty close with Biden ultimately prevailing. We'll never know now. But saying Trump was a lock is ridiculous.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not after that debate where Biden looked like shit. You gotta remember how fucking little normies pay attention to politics. That debate was probably the first time most of them had seen Joe Biden in a long ass time, and he looked bad.

It would be as simple as “I’d better vote for the one who’s not gonna die in office”; which is honestly the stupidest take imaginable, but they have been defunding our schools for 60 years so what did you expect?

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 months ago

You gotta remember how fucking little normies pay attention to politics.

i'm learning from my interactions from lemmy.world that this statement defines so much of what's wrong.

... they have been defunding our schools for 60 years so what did you expect?

i think this is one the reasons why and i also think that there are other just/almost-as-big reasons as evidenced by roughly 1/4 of my 1st-generation-american college-educated extended-family members loving trump; and somehow it's mostly the boomer & gen-x aged ones while the millenials and gen-z vote the other way.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I had and still do have a gut feeling it won't be close and Trump gets shit stomped. Probably just high on hopium, but while the media had been talking about his leads, I just got more vibes that he didn't have the same support and his voter base has been shrinking. Biden wasn't inspiring, but I don't think trump gained more supporters over the past 4 years, and I don't think Biden had lost many. If people show up and vote, Trump will lose. With the new spark in the Dem candidacy, I expect an ass kicking barring something happening over the next few months.

[–] Myxomatosis@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

It’s still early to be optimistic but I agree with you. The whole country has seen and knows what Trump is, he is no longer an unknown quantity. He’s not an outsider fighting the system and a competent businessman like people thought he would be in 2016. The Clintons and their baggage are also out of the picture and dems are rallying behind the energy that Kamala has brought. There’s a reason why Trump and his camp are panicking.

[–] DokPsy@infosec.pub 2 points 3 months ago

Anyone who thought Trump was a competent businessman had not been actually paying attention.

[–] DokPsy@infosec.pub 4 points 3 months ago

Honestly, the numbers through the years have shown that when people show up to vote, the Dems win. That's literally all it takes. Everyone going to vote.

[–] revelrous@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I do think his base has grown with previously non-voting incel types. I have some young male relatives who paid no attention in 16 or 20 who are all in on maga now. The grievance shtick seems to really speak to them.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's the same token on the other side though. Plenty of new empathetic left voters too. My youngest brother and all his friends are that way.

[–] DokPsy@infosec.pub 4 points 3 months ago

Good. Make sure they vote

[–] revelrous@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago
[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Dems really need to address what is driving people to the GQP somehow. There has to be something other then just hate motivating these people.

[–] revelrous@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 months ago

It feels like they all expected life to neatly fall into place, and when it didn't they latched on to any narrative that externalized the blame in a way that gave them permission to lash out. Can't get a girlfriend? Must be the epidemic of miserable crazy cat ladies. Can't get a promotion? Must be all the DEI policies. The hate i think they use to shore up their fragile self esteem.