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'You're blowing it': Trump's fans beg him to change course as polls show GOP slipping
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There is a difference between the emotional masses that go off "energy" and the supposed logical leftists here that think they are the essence of logic and will logically not vote because they are logically waiting for the logical platform and blah blah blah.
You are calling most of the country bandwagoners and the left most people here self-righteous idiots. Everyone's at fault but the guy running? Now, it's time for the other ridiculous candidate to get his.
Most of "the left" on Lemmy has consistently demonstrated that they are self righteous idiots.
I guess some of them are actual propagandists. And some of them are children.
I wouldn't use any of those words. Most people go off "feel", that's not the same as bandwagon. But anyway it was mostly about the supposed logical leftists I see here that don't understand how to move the overton window.
Who said everyone's fault? (you seem to be extending that to literally everyone now.) What I had to do a ton of was telling people the way you progress and move the overton window is by voting Dems and making sure they don't lose. See what happened when Gore lost and when Hillary lost? Now where would things be if they had won? Surprise (not a surprise): further left. Nor was it Bidens "fault", he's been a great president and there's no blaming him like you seem to suggest.
I don't understand what you mean by "feel" then but I do apologize for putting words in your mouth. I watched some videos on the overton window effect but I could have a misconception of how it works.
Rights for LGBT and abortion have been put out there for a while. I can't see how Hilary who thought both of these sets of rights as state issues was going to help? How would Hilary move public opinion on these issues to the left? Is it because she would have picked more moderate judges? But at the same time, it seems this overton window idea says the politician is not the one shifting the window (the majority of the time).
You don't know what feel is? You think Hillary would have appointed judges that overturned Roe (that's what would have been necessary)? Hillary vs trump and you don't understand how things would have wound up more progressive over time with Hilary winning, when they went off the cliff to the right when trump won? Yeah I have a hard time thinking this is a good faith discussion.
Do you mean they felt other people lose interest in Biden and felt pressured to move on as well. I think people had to have some resentment towards him to get to this point anyways.
I did mention the more moderate judges.
I looked up this idea of overton window. I have never heard of it before. You said people here have a lack of knowledge about it. It's supposed to be the area where a law can be acceptable. But how do you move the window left? The videos say the politician usually doesn't affect the window itself, they just read where it is placed.