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[–] n1ck_n4m3@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

It doesn't matter what Trump says or does at this point, him getting the votes isn't the plan.

Johnson will refuse to certify the results of the election that will put Democrats in the House, claiming some kind of bullshit irregularities with no proof, leaving the House controlled by the Republicans. They’ll then claim irregularities in the presidential election and force a contingent election where they have a 100% chance of electing Trump no matter what the public votes.

More people need to be made aware that this is 100% legal for them to do, and more people need to be aware that it is almost certainly what they will try. The only thing that can possibly stop it is significant awareness by the mass population of Americans and significant publicity (similar to how mass awareness of Project 2025 turned it into a poison pill).

EDIT: Oh look, they’ve already started making it super-legal in battleground states: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/06/georgia-local-election-boards-allowed-withhold-vote-certification

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

The gap here as far as I can read is that the house doesn't certify their own results and they members elect the speaker before they get sworn in.

So if the new Congress is majority Democrat, Mike Johnson can't do anything about that, as the speaker is going to be selected by Democrats.

Now the whole behavior in the event of an electoral tie is stupid, and that would probably be a trump victory, since each state has equal voice at that point.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Two things, Congress cannot exclude a member before they've been sworn in. After being sworn in it requires a 2/3rds vote.

Refusing to seat anyone from the opposing party would and should result in massive riots with the goal of restoring our constitutional right to representation.