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I was referring to the fair in your hypothetical smartass

as if random civilians with guns wouldn't bumble around more and also shoot the crowd?

metal detectors? pretty easy since it's a ticketed event

a very fine line to tread indeed

that doesn't necessarily mean it is possible though. just to be clear

you misunderstand. you told me what you value. I asked for a definition of value. something can be valuable (by being valuable to someone else) even if you yourself do not value it

but what about a general definition of value that encapsulates everyone's experiences and not only yours?

that is an effect, not a definition