SquirtleHermit

But it's still daytime...

Are you from the future?

I don't know about anyone else on Lemmy, but your random posts here inspired me to give the game another shot. Been playing it on and off for a few days! So keep on posting! Giving me inspiration when the going gets tough!

I wonder if people realize posts like this only push away potential converts?

Even if Centrists were as good as this post makes them out to be (which sadly they're not), smugly asserting that everyone else is worse than you is a terrible method of persuasion.

Though I suppose the point is to feel morally and intellectually superior to people who would vote differently. Rather than to actually try to woo the most voters.

Edit: Fwiw, I believe the best option we have currently is to vote for the Democrats. I simply don't see an alternative option that is as likely to keep Trump out of the Whitehouse again. Though damage mitigation is not my favorite strategy to employ, in this case I believe it is the "strongest" play available.

I dunno Yogi. I get that you are cool with jokes about trump and religion, but you immediately came to the defense of "dark humor" mfers. Seems like even you have your sacred cows.

naw man, I'm just fucking with you. I knew what you meant.

Dark humor mfers: "Everything is fair to joke about, race, gender, orientation, disabilities, everything"

Someone: makes joke about dark humor mfers

Dark humor mfers: "Now you've gone too far!"

If I knew nothing else about the 80's but the plot of a few buddy cop movies, that would be enough to know this take is full of shit.

5 minutes ago I knew nothing about this, and honestly I don't have the "discerning eye" necessary to notice these issues even if they did exist.

That being said, I have been looking for something to get mad at...

Do what I always do? Can do!

I initially assumed this was unpopular because "just wipe the knives off..." and "why sharpen them at all?". Boy am I surprised.

Well, disingenuous questions are usually meant to derail the topic at hand by forcing you to address a topic you haven't prepared for. In such cases, I would put the burden of explaination on the person who asked, perhaps with some equally unanswerable questions.

"What about them? Do you expect they will be able to farm better in a desert? Is helping them through climate change initiatives more difficult than surviving climate catastrophe?" etc. etc. ad neaseaum.

Far be it from me to denounce some joy you found in the movie. We both obviosuly like StarWars (fellow geeks!), and if you liked TLJ's take, you do you.

I agree whole heartedly that it would be uninteresting to make Luke "saint-like". My issue isn't with him having flaws and room for growth.

But I stand by the fact that his "mistake" in the ST runs directly contrary to the central theme of and lesson learned in his original arc. It may have been "in character" for ESB Luke, but by the end of RotJ, he had been shown that the goodness in a person can overcome the darkness, even in Vader.

And TLJ didn't spend any time developing his actions, it just kinda said "well, his central arc wasn't as impactful as it seemed". Which I do believe is lazy/bad writing.

To blatantly plagerize Wikipedia.

A character arc is the transformation or inner journey of a character over the course of a story. If a story has a character arc, the character begins as one sort of person and gradually transforms into a different sort of person in response to changing developments in the story. Since the change is often substantive and leading from one personality trait to a diametrically opposite trait (for example, from greed to benevolence), the geometric term arc is often used to describe the sweeping change.

Luke's arc saw him learn to see and believe in the godness inside people, even when no one else could. Better writing would have pushed into his transformation, or found a previously unexplored flaw to examine. Having characters need to learn the same lessons over and over again is not only frustrating, it's lazy writing and poor character development.

To that point, I once heard a youtuber recommend an alternative reason for Luke's fall that would have leaned into this defining characteristic. They suggested that Luke still get the premonition regarding Ben, but believe the goodness in Ben could overcome the darkness. When Ben inevitably falls to the darkside, this could cause Luke to have a crisis of faith, fundamentally putting the plot in the same spot as the beginning of TLJ, but in a way that played off of Luke's defining moment, as opposed to grinding against it.

Now you would have had to explain Ben's turn to the darkside, but I think "my uncle attacked me" is also kind of a weak reason to betray his parents anyway (and kill his father, and attempt to kill his mother). And also fails to address his weird obsession with Vader, like that was just kind of glossed over.

Anyway, thanks for coming to my TED talk.

Definitely could have gone a lot of different ways, and many of them would have been much better imho. That being said, no doubt JJ handed him a writing hard mode plot thread.

Make an interesting, compelling, convincing reason why a classic hero's journey arch type would call it quits. Not an easy thing to do. And it definitely contributed to the problems.

(though when Mark Hamil was telling Rian he fundamentally disagrees with Rian's interpretation of the character, it's hard to say he didn't have fair warning)