Excrubulent

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[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Men can lactate, specifically when they are severely malnourished, but I have heard it's possible to induce it in various ways. This would aid the survival of a tribe when food was scarce by keeping the babies alive for longer, but some mammals can do it under normal circumstances as well.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

Oh wow, I never heard of this but I love Knytt Underground by the same developer. You also play as a bouncing ball at least for part of it.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

Had to downvote, but the game is great. I play it with my kids and it is reliably hilarious. There are so many interactions that something surprising happens with amazing regularity.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

This is all potentially true.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

I would be very happy to provide an alternative face.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Okay, so I think we're largely in agreement except for a little misunderstanding. I'm glad because that means you might be a little more receptive to some of the stuff I might share. I have more links but I'm writing this novella on my phone if you can believe it. I'll share them later.

My criticism about the professional class being paid by the owning class to justify their wealth was specifically about orthodox economics, like the Chicago School who would literally construct studies to justify whatever you wanted if you paid for it. The yardsale model - that's a great link by the way, the graph that emerges perfectly mirrors our actual economy - is an example of heterodox economics, which largely stands in opposition to orthodox economics. The opener to that page is very well written. It'll do a better job than me.

Now, for an example of how completely divorced from reality orthodox economics is, the market convexity concept is perfect. The exceptions you mentioned about veblen and giffen goods aren't the main problem with convexity. The simple problem of inelastic demand is a much bigger problem. This is all couched in extremely obfuscating language, those articles are impenetrable to anyone who isn't steeped in economics language.

I assume you know what inelasticity is, it's something for which demand doesn't change with price, for instance things like shelter or food. So, to demystify the language, another term for "inelastic demand" is "need". Basically, if you read between the lines even slightly, the founding, econ 101, highschool level principle of orthodox economics has been forced to admit that it doesn't work for anything anybody actually needs. And then they go on insisting that this principle should govern our entire society. Got to keep that yardsale going.

Market convexity is an amalgamation of post-hoc justifications for why supply & demand is so hard to find in the real world. When I mentioned the perfectly straight, bisecting, perpendicular lines graph, you admitted that was just an illustration, and I agree, it is a doodle. I know it's now in vogue to use slightly curved lines, but that's just because economists are aware of how ridiculous the first illustration was and they put in just the slightest amount of extra effort to hide it.

When I'm asking for the science, let me ask you this: what data constructs the graph? Where did it originate? This is the question I've never had answered. Just literally the graph appearing in real world data, just one time.

See, when actual sciences want to "illustrate" a concept, sometimes they idealise, but they almost always have real data and real graphs to show. Their idealised lines pass through data points with error bars. Scientists work hard for their data, and they always, always show it off. Stress-strain curves, electron microscope images, star life-cycle data, red-shifting, animal population surveys, and on and on. Real data is complex and interesting and beautiful and scientists will show you their cool slide and say "you can see such-and-such feature here and this indicates...", it's great.

I have looked for the supply & demand version of this and can find nothing but hand-waving excuses.

Also, the convexity article talks about the Nobel Prize in Economics, which is wrongly named. It is the Nobel Memorial Prize. It was named after Nobel, because it's not a Nobel prize, because the Nobel prize committee rejected the economics category because it isn't a real science. Some Swiss bank then financed the wish.com version Nobel Memorial Prize in Economics.

I suspect this isn't so hard for you to accept since you've already come so far in your understanding of heterodox economics. You still seem to have some respect for the orthodox schools, which is strange when you understand so much of where they have led us.

As for the Epstein thing, I don't have any reason to believe that anything has changed. We know Epstein was part of the trafficking of minors, and absent any evidence about the state of that practice, the idea that removing two people from the network actually fundamentally altered anything seems hopelessly naive. I think the burden of proof lies on anyone who wants to claim the practice has been abolished.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

women are not your enemy and are not even theoretically automatable

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

Which dictator do you mean? The democracy movement and the June struggle was in 1987, 10 years before the general strike.

Also, neoliberal capitalism is very, very happy with right wing dictators because they love oppressing workers and lowering wages. Just look at Pinochet in Chile.

And again the June struggle was won by popular struggle, not market forces. The idea that the unions supported the dictator is a weird one too. Like, where are you getting that, and is there any evidence they weren't just yellow unions approved by the dictator?

Even then I don't know why you brought those things up. You just added a bunch of details and I guess assumed those details - some of which were very wrong - were somehow in support of some point, but you didn't say what that point is.

And I don't know why you think I'm talking about industrialisation when I talk about workers improving their lives. That is not at all what I'm talking about. And industrialisation isn't a capitalist thing, they just happen to coincide in human history. We don't have alternative Earths to test the idea, so crediting the gains of industrialisation to the market and capitalism is weird. You just put that out there completely unsupported.

That's another thing neoliberal economists love to do, just blame all the problems of capitalism on unions and regulations, and credit every good thing that happens on the glorious invisible hand.

And since you understand a good amount of economics, perhaps you can tell me what is the scientific basis of supply & demand for instance? I've looked for this information and had people try to show me, but they've never actually shown it. It's a fundamental part of economics so I'm told. What is the science behind it? The perfectly straight, perpendicular bisecting lines on an unscaled graph do not suggest any scientific basis to me, they suggest the aesthetics of science devoid of its substance. If you could disabuse me of this notion then perhaps I could move on from my current woeful ignorance on the matter.

And finally, you don't think there's any conspiracy around Epstein, fine. I bet it's easy to maintain that idea when you just ignore all the evidence I gave you.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 weeks ago

Honestly it sounds like someone was paid to do something about adblocking and just like... did something. Like if you were tasked with reducing adblocking, and your first and most obvious idea of "reduce the obnoxious ads" was disallowed because enshittification is mandated, you could say no, which most workers won't do, or you could just do whatever random bullshit feels like it might work because it's punitive. Or at least it's a gesture that shows your boss you're trying.

Authoritarian systems like capitalist corporations are inherently low-information for exactly this reason. People on the low rungs doing the real work who understand what needs to be done will typically not report problems to their superiors. And when they do, those superiors tend not to listen, because the idea that lower workers know something they don't threatens their leadership status.

Also our society's legal system trains us to believe punitive measures must do something even though they don't.

Also I guess another reason they might wind up at this strategy is that straight up telling users that the problem is their adblock is the fastest way to get adblockers to block your countermeasure, so they think they have to be sneaky.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I guess that's possible, and a very creepy thought, but more likely they saw the level of general attention on the issue and backed off globally.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 19 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

I definitely got really awful, unplayably spotty playback that seemed linked to adblock usage. Then I saw an article about it and confirmed I wasn't going crazy, and that day it stopped happening, so it felt like I was going crazy all over again. It's like the moment they realised it was going to become a problem and they weren't as sneaky as they thought, they turned it off. I haven't had an issue since then.

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