@Tangentism
It was Ilan Pappé, I think, who quipped:
"Zionists don't believe in God, but they'll all tell you that God gave them Israel."
🇮🇱 Zionists are as Jewish as is convenient at any moment.
@GarrulousBrevity
DropBear
I think you'll find that all of the "original Zionists" were Christian @GarrulousBrevity
What we now call "Zionism" grew after the Protestant Reformation, and is rooted in 17th-century English Puritanism.
It had two significant streams:
- the return of Jews to Palestine (basically, a way to rid Europe of its Jews - a form of antisemitism, a couple of centuries before that term was coined);
- the second coming of Jesus (Jews who want to survive don't remain Jewish).
At the time, Jewish communities weren't impressed. In the 19th century, Herzl and his friends exploited the movement to their own ends.
@Cowbee
@Maggoty
@TruthSandwich is a well-known troll. It proved so obnoxious that no other Mastodon instance would put up with it. It had to start its own instance. The fact that it could do that implies financial (and probably political) backing. I've blocked that domain, so I can't see what you're responding to.
#Palestine
#Israel
#genocide
#hasbara
#zionism
#CrimesAgainstHumanity
"if you don’t understand the comments"
@Varyk
You demand that I provide evidence for things that I didn't say. That might seem tactically clever, but is it honest?
I ask for evidence to support things that you did say and you can only repeat your assertions. Is repetition evidence?
#USpol
#IsraelPalestineConflict
#Israel
#Palestine
#WarCrimes
#CrimesAgainstHumanity
#genocide
I didn't mention any "sources" @Varyk
I said that I'd be interested to see your evidence. You've tacitly conceded that you have none.
#USpol
#IsraelPalestineConflict
#Israel
#Palestine
#WarCrimes
#CrimesAgainstHumanity
#genocide
"this is absolutely incorrect,"
I'd be interested to see your evidence @Varyk
#USpol
#IsraelPalestineConflict
#Israel
#Palestine
#WarCrimes
#CrimesAgainstHumanity
#genocide
How many Israelis are truly Jewish @PanArab ?
#Palestine
#Israel
#genocide
#WarCrimes
#CrimesAgainstHumanity
#rape
#torture
@palestine @israel
https://mondoweiss.net/2023/11/are-israelis-jews-returning-to-jewish-minority-life/
The parallels between Fascism/Nazism and 🇮🇱 Zionism are indisputable @AntiOutsideAktion but not really relevant. Zionist hasbara introduces complications as distraction.
For example; arguing about, who was "there" "first", then introducing ancient mythology (which actually tends to disprove their arguments).
@GarrulousBrevity