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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (8 children)

none of those sources are at all relevant to the topic: provide evidence for either of these baseless statements:

"Israel cannot exist in its current state without the aid and protection the US provides it".

this statement is incorrect, as explained above.

"If the US actually wanted Israel to stop murdering civilians, it could have it done tomorrow."

this statement is incorrect, as explained above.

[–] DropBear@theblower.au -2 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I didn't mention any "sources" @Varyk
I said that I'd be interested to see your evidence. You've tacitly conceded that you have none.

@freshcow
@palestine
@israel

#USpol
#IsraelPalestineConflict
#Israel
#Palestine
#WarCrimes
#CrimesAgainstHumanity
#genocide

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

if you don't understand the comments or you're confused, ask for help.

which part don't you understand or cannot find sources for?

"Israel cannot exist in its current state without the aid and protection the US provides it".

israel is a technologically advanced independent country with a functioning government, they have an enormous GDP across various industries, and they receive economic and military support from dozens of other countries.

it benefits Israel to receive billions of dollars every year from the US(as it benefits the US) as a historic mutual defense ally, but Israel is in no way entirely dependent on or explicitly beholden to the US.

"If the US actually wanted Israel to stop murdering civilians, it could have it done tomorrow."

how? there is no evidence for this.

The US is a third party to this conflict that, more obviously than ever, has limited diplomatic control over the actions of the current Israeli government and its military.

[–] DropBear@theblower.au -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

"if you don’t understand the comments"
@Varyk
You demand that I provide evidence for things that I didn't say. That might seem tactically clever, but is it honest?

I ask for evidence to support things that you did say and you can only repeat your assertions. Is repetition evidence?

@freshcow
@palestine
@israel

#USpol
#IsraelPalestineConflict
#Israel
#Palestine
#WarCrimes
#CrimesAgainstHumanity
#genocide

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"You demand that I provide evidence for things that I didn't say."

nope.

"That might seem tactically clever, but is it honest?"

I disagree that you making things up and avoiding answering is tactically clever, and it is definitely dishonest.

"I ask for evidence to support things that you did say and you can only repeat your assertions."

this is also untrue

"Is repetition evidence?"

If you were this confused about basic definitions, I can see why you're having trouble.

what do you need help with specifically?

which fundamental facts are you having trouble finding sources for?

[–] DropBear@theblower.au -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You are Hasbara without end @Varyk

Such depth of dishonesty.

Blocking now.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm explaining the facts clearly with respect to the topic and responding directly to your comments.

that is not hasbara.

If you are having trouble finding sources for certain fundamental facts, tell me what those facts are.

I will provide you with sources.

If you are trying to discredit the facts by consistently avoiding or misrepresenting my argument without any evidence, it's not going to work.

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