3sothoth

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[–] 3sothoth@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I probably had some kopi luwak, twenty years ago, in a restaurant. James Hoffmann explains why I say I probably drank some. Even twenty years ago, ("someone told James that") four times as much KL was sold than was produced. Hoffmann also suggests that it would be better for you to eat and process your own green coffee in the same way that civets do. That way you aren't contributing to animal cruelty, and you can be certain that you're really drinking coffee that has actually been pooped.

My memory of the kopi luwak is, that it was unusually smooth and gentle. It was a fine cup of coffee, supremely inoffensive, perhaps a little boring. Compressing the flavour experience that is coffee into a one-dimensional line for easy comparison, the probably kopi luwak I tried was, I don't know, mid-range. Very drinkable. Beats diner coffee. Doesn't hold a candle to most well-made specialty coffee.

[–] 3sothoth@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I concur with @Broken_Monitor's and @mipadaitu's recommendations, but I might add, don't overthink it, or wait to overthink it, anyway. I have been doing pourovers since before there was a YouTube circus about it; longer than Hoffmann has been publishing videos about it, anyway. In my early days I didn't have a scale (I did have a gooseneck kettle and a terrible, cheap grinder). I brewed everything pretty much the same, in a way that is now generally understood to be wrong by the way. It was always good coffee.

Go get some pointers from Hoffmann and Hedrick by all means, but the main thing is, score some good coffee and don't be overwhelmed.

[–] 3sothoth@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Good points! Maybe I'm wondering, not what do East coast roasters consider a light roast, but what do East coast consumers expect. I assume Howell knows what he's about.

In California there are small roasters that sell medium roast labelled light, but they are a minority in my experience. (Chain outfits are a different realm altogether of course.) I can't judge all of New England from two roasters, much as I would like to ;) and Howell is pretty big.

[–] 3sothoth@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Dunkin' coffee is light(ish)? The very idea is shocking to me. More than shocking; this would shake the pillars of my world. I have never once drunk Dunkin' coffee, but sink me if I don't have to try it now. I won't be expecting much, no, but the very idea that afterthought coffee from a major donut chain might be even one notch closer to righteous than char; that's so intriguing that I think I have to hunt down a shop soon.

[–] 3sothoth@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks for the reference! I also roast my own coffee. Mine usually comes out darker in colour than one might expect from the roast level, for whatever reason, but if that oily-dark-and-darker-still-inside stuff that Fogbuster made, if that is somehow light in any way… I guess I wasted a bag of coffee then. I'm feeling pretty confident though.

 

To my coffee drinking friends in the American East (and elsewhere): I'm curious, has third wave coffee arrived? Did it get lost in translation?

Here's why I ask: I picked up some coffee in Boston recently, and I am shocked, shocked! I say, by the definition of light roast that seems to be in play. First, a pricey bag of venerable Gesha Village Estate by esteemed roaster George Howell. It's sold and labelled as a light roast, right in the middle of the light range. It is clearly a solid medium in colour, flavour, and bean hardness. Who am I now, to argue with George, but, here's the kicker, it tastes like a medium roast, that is to say, chocolatey-burnt. Not ruined exactly… well, a little bit ruined. I can see these beans being to somebody's taste, but any delicate flavours they might have had, those are lost to the burning, and to call them "lightly roasted," that's just wrong.

I was ready to write this off as a miscommunication or something, but next I opened a bag of Fogbuster "Blonde Bombshell" so light, you won't believe how light this is, but brace yourself for an explosion of flavor. I'm just reading the label, here. I have never before personally handled a bean as dark as this one. They are dark. Caliginous. Stygian. Oily dark. Toss 'em in the waste heap dark, because I don't want to have to clean my grinder from the oleaginous coating these poor, distressed beans have had forced upon them.

More than that, these beans are even darker on the inside. Fogbuster somehow injected more dark in the innards, after making the outards dark and shiny like I don't even want to touch. What these things must taste like; I'm not even curious.

A serious question then: what constitutes a light roast in Boston? Did I just get twice unlucky?

 

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