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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

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[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 23 points 1 month ago

not only are the DCs burning water and harming ears, we’re on to the stage of taiwan not farming rice in service of making more chips

She shows us one of her rice paddies. It used to hold enough water to raise ducks. Now it's nothing but cracked earth and a few crispy flowers.

I’m neither a climate nor agriculture scientist so I can’t guess the longer term impact of this; I immediately wonder whether the soil could get harmed by disuse over years, along with other warming-related problems

I’m too angry to even sneer properly at this. it’s so fucking obviously nuts, but perverse incentives roll right ahead unchecked.

[–] hrrrngh@awful.systems 22 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I think some people are from hell

Here is the worst thing I didn't have to read today from a transhumanist:

Yes but laws are often outpaced, presumably having your dog walk in and say he liked it is a pretty good reason to have your bestiality charge thrown out and perhaps move on to the discrimination countersuit.

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Also this may have historic reasons, as the first futa was drawn centuries ago, long before the technology that enabled transgenderism, with breasts being the key difference.

Bonus round:

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What percentage of homeless people do you think would be worthwhile having as slaves? Many of them are broken people who can't reasonably support themselves in their current state, nor do anything to fix it.

This is vaguely similar to my idea for how to fix homelessness, build a community for them on a large scale, either state or national, where property is cheap and low skill jobs are abundant. Then you build a prison there, and everyone guilty of a 'crime of homelessness' such as trespassing, illegal camping, stealing food, etc. Then they get put in jail for a few days, probably put through some level of rehab, given basic medical care, and eventually a job for the massive debt they've just wracked up. What work it would be is the hard question, but the benefits to everyone else would pay for them to dig holes to fill back in if needed. Maybe have them sort recycling or something.

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

how to fix homelessness, build a community for them on a large scale, either state or national, where property is cheap and low skill jobs are abundant

Okay, I mean, there's no indication as to how you'd achieve this, but yes, community help and cheap rent are absolutely a good ideal to aim at...

Then you build a prison there.

Aaaand you're a cartoon villain. What the absolute fuck.

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[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i've seen some of these takes coming from libertarians, but never from a single person

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This is the kind of take a libertarian makes, and then goes 'well nobody debates me on this so my logic is solid'. While he isn't noticing that people are just avoiding the conversation all together, as nobody wants to roll in that mud with him.

The UR example of these kinds of bad takes is the book "Defending the Undefendable", a dumb book I have ranted about before.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

certified awful content, don't open if you like dogs

So in addition to normal libertarian drivel like daydreaming about being a slaveowner or such, this reminds me of an incident when certain libertarian org found that they have an actual dogfucker in their ranks (kompromat in polish) https://web.archive.org/web/20161206144701/https://www.wykop.pl/wpis/20957439/mirki-neuropa-moze-was-to-zainteresuje-na-zdjeciu-/

so that "what if dog consents tho" is not exactly a hypothetical question

[–] Aoife@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 month ago

Holy shit every one of those was like getting ounched in the head from a completely random direction

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Catching up on SMBC and finding a quality sneer I'm a little bit surprised I didn't find here sooner.

Can I get an abot?

[–] self@awful.systems 18 points 1 month ago (5 children)

so what rhymes with Proton getting into AI grifting? you fucking guessed it

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

we still keep a proportion of Proton’s financial reserves in Bitcoin.

further down the page

Proton is not a crypto company. We do not speculate in crypto

[–] self@awful.systems 16 points 1 month ago

so I’ve accidentally been paying shitheads who speculate on crypto to speculate on crypto. I’m kinda angry at myself for not catching this.

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

so what rhymes with Proton getting into AI grifting?

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[–] mii@awful.systems 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The fuck is happening over there?

I could have “excused” the AI bullshit as “we did it to appease the corporate customers who make us money” but there’s no way you can spin this.

I’m canceling my account. At this point I might just say fuck it and use my Yahoo mail for everything again.

(And this time the Reddit thread is the dumpster fire I’ve been expecting the last one to be lol)

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[–] dgerard@awful.systems 18 points 1 month ago (10 children)

https://bsky.app/profile/jonpennington.bsky.social/post/3kxqkmezcwe2o

I went to college with him. Yarvin is curdled nerd rage personified. He also lies about his age. He's older than me & claims a birth date that would make him younger than me.

I was on a Quiz Bowl team with him & whenever he would buzz in for an answer, he would jerk his body spasmodically, which the other people on the team called "Yarvinating."

He's the kind of player that other Quiz Bowl players hate, known in the subculture as a "pickoff lord." That is to say, he's the kind of guy who would pad his stats by diving in to buzz on easy questions, make wild guesses on intros so he could get more points than teammates, etc.

Hand to God. If anybody disputes me, I've got at least one other person who would remember the "Yarvinating" anecdote. I've got legit Quiz Bowl cred. I used to play against Ken Jennings before he was even a Jeopardy! contestant, let alone host.

I connected on Facebook with a former classmate, somebody else from that team who once appeared in a College Jeopardy! tournament. We're both kind of just gobsmacked that we were there for somebody else's Lex Luthor origin story.

Another bit of tea... He lies about his age. He was an upperclassman at Brown when I was a freshman & he claims to be younger than me.

see also https://www.qbwiki.com/wiki/Curtis_Yarvin

Yarvin played on the College Bowl-only team for Brown from 1989 to 1992. In 2021 he published a poem[2] stating that "No one can fucking touch me / In College Bowl." Brown failed to advance out of the Region 1 tournament for all four years of Yarvin's participation, making his lifetime record at intercollegiate tournaments 0-4 and demonstrating that, at a minimum, the Brandeis, MIT, and Williams teams were capable of "touching" his performance.

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[–] BigMuffin69@awful.systems 18 points 1 month ago (6 children)

the wife sent this one to me

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
[–] ShakingMyHead@awful.systems 15 points 1 month ago

Bosses are urging employees to increase their output with the help of AI tools (37 percent), to expand their skill sets (35 percent), take on a wide range of responsibilities (30 percent), return to the office (27 percent), work more efficiently (26 percent), and work more hours (20 percent).

Stop working from home because AI.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] swlabr@awful.systems 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s my strong belief that rats only like analytic philosophy because of the word “analytic” in the title. If there were some other broad category of philosophy with a name more synonymous with “rational” they’d be all over it.

[–] jonhendry@iosdev.space 12 points 1 month ago (5 children)
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[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Japan supermarket chain uses AI to gauge staff smiles, speech tones in quality service push (South China Morning Post).

Called “Mr Smile”, it was developed by the Japanese technology company InstaVR and is said to be able to accurately rate a shop assistant’s service attitude.

It has also been designed with “game” elements that invite staff to improve their attitude by challenging their scores.

The company said its goal was to “standardise staff members’ smiles and satisfy customers to the maximum”.

Thanks I hate it

Press release here: https://www.aeonretail.jp/pdf/240701R_1.pdf or here: https://www.instavr.co.jp/news/aeon-retail-smile-2024-07-01/ (Lots of big words so I didn't try to read it)

InstaVR's English website here: https://www.instavr.co/

What if instead of making robots better we just made interacting with a real person indistinguishable by demanding they conform to arbitrary metrics that the brain-slugs that control our minds think look like genuine human warmth and kindness?

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 15 points 1 month ago

standardise staff members’ smiles

Completely normal and chill thing to want

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[–] saucerwizard@awful.systems 13 points 1 month ago (15 children)
[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No idea how true it is but apparently crowdstrike fired some of their QA and replaced it with AI, anybody heard about this? (source bsky) (Also 'AI' is doing a lot of work here, that could be anything)

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I am attempting to track down this precise story.

  • They are gung ho on AI
  • They laid off a pile of their QA
  • They have a "virtual security analyst" which is an LLM
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[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

more on the nsfw side but this is a kinda interesting finding/use of existing tech

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[–] mountainriver@awful.systems 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Crowdstrike offers 10 USD gift cards as apology.

https://techcrunch.com/2024/07/24/crowdstrike-offers-a-10-apology-gift-card-to-say-sorry-for-outage/

Those that try to use them find out that Crowdstrike can't even buy gift cards at scale.

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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 12 points 1 month ago

NASBLOL (I'm not sure this abbreviation will work out): "Investors in anti-Biden cryptocurrencies are getting absolutely destroyed." (Source)

[–] flowerysong@awful.systems 12 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Whatever shambling corpse of Toys "R" Us still exists has released "the first OpenAI SORA generated brand commercial."

still frame from the commercial of a child who looks slightly melted

It looks absolutely dire, particularly in motion, but posters are still falling over themselves to call it "cool" and "exciting" or claim that people "might not notice" that it's complete and utter arse. Twitter screenshot of a user admitting that it's a bad ad but claiming that people might not notice it's computer generated

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

That picture... Harry Potter and the Hole of Ketamine.

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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"Positive is that if you didn't tell someone it was GenAI, they might not notice!"

Nah, they'd be able to immediately tell from just how fucking garbage it is

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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 12 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Have not read it yet, but seems relevant to our collective interests. NSFW due to NASB. Accelerationism, amphetamine philosophy, and the Death Trip. (A long post about Nick Land).

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[–] mii@awful.systems 12 points 1 month ago (8 children)

https://xcancel.com/jrawson/status/1814232925967089808

The fuck.

Reposting this from the last Stubsack here by request.

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[–] carlitoscohones@awful.systems 12 points 1 month ago

Not everyone wants ai for their search tools

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 12 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Trump selecting JD Vance has his running mate has led to stuff I know from this venue bleeding into stuff I follow (shamefully) for US politics. Case in point, behold Mencius Moldbug between Richard Hanania and some racist dweeb from Cambridge:

https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2024/07/meet-you-at-the-bottom-if-there-really-is-one

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