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[–] fogelmensch@lemmy.world 67 points 1 month ago (2 children)

To be fair, Obama hasn't apologized for being black yet

Obligatory /s

[–] Sammy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 month ago

He did, however, apologize for Party Rockin’ and I think that’s brave.

[–] VubDapple@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

His being a transgressive monster is well known and also the primary source of his appeal. I think pointing out his amorality alone won't help. However, perhaps linking his amorality to how he will personally hurt voters by harming women and LGBTQ+ rights and by destroying social security might land. He might say he won't do that and the retort would be he is lying. A monster is only appealing when he will attack the right people and not you personally.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago

A monster is only appealing if they act and believe like the supporters wish to be.

And it's also the power of never taking responsibility for monstrous things in this world. If the monster is given power to do monstrous things, if you support monstrous things then you can watch it all happen. If the monster is stopped and punished, but you had supported the monster, you can stand aside and say you were never part of it.

The monster is only a small part of how monstrous society can be.

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 20 points 1 month ago

I mean, Trump can't help it, but think about the audacity of Obama just being born slightly darker than acceptable!

[–] demesisx@infosec.pub 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I hate Donald Trump as much as the next guy but you identity politics dupes need to wake up and stop throwing your support behind fake leftists like Obama. The absence of a true left is what gave us Donald Trump in the first place.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What gave us Donald Trump was a lot of rich oligarchs who wanted their never-ending tax breaks and a cult of poorly educated dumb-asses.

[–] demesisx@infosec.pub 19 points 1 month ago

And those oligarchs bought up every key political seat in the GOP and DNC….

What I am getting at is: we’re sitting here infighting between two sham parties.
First past the post literally disqualifies the US from being considered a democracy. It keeps us infighting about Hulk Hogan vs. the Undertaker while the corporations (which are considered people except they are increasingly unprosecutable/above the law) shape our government into a fascist state whether you’re talking about under GOP or DNC rule.

[–] tastysnacks@programming.dev 7 points 1 month ago

they got that with Republicans. what gave us Donald Trump is a 2 party system and it's lack of alignment with the electorate.

[–] JayObey711@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

I thought it's going to be a tan suit joke

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Moral high ground is MEANINGLESS to these broken people.
You will achieve nothing by engaging with these broken people.
You will learn nothing from the reality-television that passes for "news" in the 24-hour cycle and online, you can only damage your emotional and mental health.

You already know all you need to know. You've known for eight years already. Speak softly, disengage from the noise as much as possible, and vote Democrat in November.

[–] formergijoe@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

But but but... He wore a TAN suit and asked for DIJON MUSTARD once!

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

The Right is still talking about Vince Foster's suicide two decades later.

[–] LaterRedditor@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Did the Bible say anything about if you vote for people going to hell, you are going to hell with him?

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

It says you should not be a part of this at all.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 4 points 1 month ago

It is funny how wholesome the obama family is compared to most presidents outside of carter, although I don't really have a good idea of previous presidents personal lives once you get older than kennedy/nixon

[–] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, but did Obama hold a bible upside down?

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

No but he did sit down and have a beer with a guy once.