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Reading about FOSS philosophy, degoogling, becoming against corporations, and now a full-blown woke communist (like Linus Torvalds)

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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

Linux and open source in general completely blow apart capitalist arguments that profit motive is necessary for innovation and technological advancement. Open source ecosystem primarily run by volunteers has produces some of the most interesting and innovative technologies that we've seen. The reality is that people make interesting things because they're curious and they enjoy making stuff. Pretty much nobody makes anything interesting with profit being the primary motive.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (5 children)

The Linux to trans anarchocommunist catgirl pipeline is very real. The moment you move to Arch it's already over.

[–] Caitlynn@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

I'm feeling called out

[–] Resolved3874@lemdro.id 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

As someone who recently fell in love with EndeavorOS I don't wanna fall down the cat girl pipeline....

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

It's to late brother. It's to late.

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

Well, I'm probably fucked then. I even have Arch on my gaming PC with KDE and Arch on my school laptop with GNOME(Gnome for Laptops is insanely cool)

[–] d_k_bo@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

It didn't happen to me despite using Linux for 8 years. I guess I am a Windows user in disguise.

[–] ensignrick@startrek.website 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I just installed pop!_os am I safe?

[–] krimsonbun@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 months ago

that's how I started. nobody's safe.

[–] Gamey@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

Slippery slope my friend!

[–] thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Context for those who are baffled (I was)

https://news.itsfoss.com/linus-torvalds-woke-communists/

No Linus hasn't grabbed a red rag and isn't off to foment revolution

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I liked the take by the utterly clueless Polish guy in the comment. I think his complete lack of understanding of any context is quite typical of online political conversation, especially when semantics come into play.

Also Linus did call for "Total world domination" (I have the tshirt).

[–] sneaky_b45tard@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

Yes of course, who doesn't remember how woke Lenin created a woke revolution based on woke teachings of woke Marx and even woker Engels.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Linus Torvalds is a "full-blown woke communist"? Citation needed.

I have been a FOSS enthusiast since my preteen or early teenage years (mid-to-late 2000s), yet I am not in any sense a communist.

[–] akulium@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

To me it always seemed like Linus Torvalds is mostly a pragmatist.

Richard M Stallman on the other hand...

[–] shirro@aussie.zone 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't really see the link to communism though I can see the parallels to social democracy.

Private ownership of computer code should lead us to a hellscape where all code is owned by a handful of huge companies and wealthy elites. But instead of doing away with private ownership and making all code public domain we added regulation in the form of free and open source licensing that democratized private ownership and made it serve our community. Perhaps that is the real lesson, not communism.

[–] kariboka@bolha.forum 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You don't know what communism is.

[–] TheBeege@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In pointing out one's deficiencies, you should help them fill in those gaps. Otherwise, you're just being an asshole.

Explain what communism is. Comprehensive education in communism is not part of many places' standard curriculum

[–] Rumo@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

Yes! I like you :)

[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Fuck communist statist, foss is pure anarchism.

[–] Rumo@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Anarchism does not necessarily exclude Communism! :)

Good Explanations: https://www.anarchistfaq.org/afaq/index.html for those interested

[–] AnanasMarko@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Disagree. If FOSS were an anarchism what would be the point of FOSS lincences of which some are very long legal documents? Also corporations would just take your code, say its theirs and tell you to go fuck yourself.

[–] SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Foss licenses are copyleft, they bar individuals from enclosing the commons built by the collective for profit. Anarchism isn’t just letting people do whatever they want. Anarchism means against hierarchy. Having rules that prevent unjustified hierarchies from forming is entirely with in the bounds of anarchism. Including rules that prevent using copyright as a coercive hierarchy.

[–] Robaque@feddit.it 1 points 11 months ago

All heirarchies are unjustified.

I'd look at foss licenses more as tools of defence against (and within) the current system/context than "rules" that serve to enforce some kind of anti-capitalist "heirarchy".

[–] PropaGandalf@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Hah what? So you are running from bad corporations to daddy government? Somwhere I took another turn because this journey turned me into a libertarian.

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Why do so many people think left vs right is government vs no government? It's fucking baffling. You think leftists just love the government? Just... why?? Who told you that? Why do you believe them?

"So long as the state exists there is no freedom. When there is freedom, there will be no state."

So much love for state, here...

I'll tell you something that might shock you. I'm pretty much a communist. I also hate the state. Does that confuse you? It shouldn't!

[–] PropaGandalf@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'm sorry I assumed Marxism-Leninism instead of libertarian socialism because of the predominant tankie culture here on lemmy.

[–] Prunebutt@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Don't let the tankies steal the term "communism".

I even don't want to give up Marx.

[–] imAadesh@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If workers run the government, then sure.

[–] Uncle_Iroh@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In theory it's great, but have you seen the complete fucking braindead idiots we share this world with?

[–] Prunebutt@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You do realize that some of these idiots have way more power (money) than they should have any right to? Elon Musk, Bobby Kotick, ...

[–] Uncle_Iroh@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Elon is just an ultra autist, I don't think he's stupid if you make him do some engineering stuff.

[–] Prunebutt@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

I've actually never seen any reason to believe that he has any engineering chops.

[–] Prunebutt@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You know that Rothbard stole that term from anarcho-communists (libertarian socialists), right?

Edit: Thought you meant right-wing libertarianism. Was confused, since IMHO Marx (without Lenin/Mao/etc.) is actually quite compatible with left-wing libertarianism. Even if he had a personal feud with Bakunin.

[–] z3n0x@feddit.de 0 points 11 months ago

it be a slippery slope