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On Linux and Android. What are privacy oriented alternatives to Firefox now that it's no longer trustworthy?

The ability to sync between devices would be a huge bonus, even just on a local network.

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[–] leadore@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

I just installed Librewolf today, using it now. Being a fork of FF it makes a very smooth transition.

[–] ClownsInSpace2@lemm.ee 16 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I use a similar set up. Librewolf on Linux and IronFox on Android. You could still use a Firefox account to sync, but I wouldn’t. I’ve heard there’s a way to host an older version of Firefox sync locally, but I haven’t looked into it.

[–] FrostyTrichs@crazypeople.online 9 points 2 months ago

Second the Ironfox recommendation.

[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Not OP, but I've never heard of IronFox. Is it a comparable replacement for Mull? Gods I'm still a bit salty over how sudden that was...

[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 7 points 2 months ago

It's a fork of Mull, in fact!

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Yes IronFox is a fork of Mull, and though it does have a couple of differences in opinion on the balance of privacy and usability, it's very similar. I've been using it since shortly after we lost Mull.

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[–] lemmeBe@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

This + xBrowserSync for bookmarks.

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is what I use.

And this is the latest sync server that doesn't rely on discontinued versions of Python: https://github.com/mozilla-services/syncstorage-rs/. It's not a full, plug and play solution, and it doesn't support PostgreSql so I haven't set it up in my self hosted environment yet, but plan to eventually.

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[–] fireshell@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

LibreWolf finally has an account at mastodon @librewolf@chaos.social

[–] somedev@aussie.zone 3 points 2 months ago

I made the switch, its worth noting that there is some differences, like not keeping cookies by default, and you're not able to set it dark mode etc. These can be fixed up through extensions or config changes.

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[–] sonalder@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago (4 children)

If you want to keep the Gecko Engine from Mozilla to support an alternative to Google's monopoly here are a couple alternative for Linux :

  • Librewolf
  • Mullvad Browser
  • Zen Browser

For Android you have to be aware that unfortunately every firefox based browser lack of per-site isolation unlike chromium browsers.

  • IronFox (active fork of Mull by DivestOS)
  • Fennec

On the dark side of the spectrum you have chromium browser such as :

  • Brave (Linux & Android) (disable cryptocrap, sponsor backgrounds and it's quite good)
  • Cromite (Android)
[–] breadcat@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Vivaldi is much better than brave, no ai or crypto shit and the CEO isn't alt right

[–] dRLY@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Vivaldi is pretty awesome. The massive levels of customization are next level compared to other Chromium options. I use it first if needing to use a site that is hard-coded to reject Firefox or other non-Chromium browsers. Also use it as a feed reader a lot.

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[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago

I use ungoogled-chromium & thorium are worth a mention.

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[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I've been using LibraWolf on desktop for several years now. It's just far simpler than modifying standard Firefox. for my personal needs.

[–] N0x0n@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

LibreWolf is great ! Coming from ArkenFox, I found LibreWolf's override cfg a bit easier.

They also have a pacdiff cfg to see what changes from version to version without the need to roam arkenfoxes github repo for hours to find what changed or what to change.

I installed it yesterday to see how it goes :) If it doesn't fit, will go back to Arkenfox.

[–] trhbd@scribe.disroot.org 2 points 2 months ago

power of 'community-driven' projects

[–] Alk@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Floorp and librewolf, among others.

[–] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

neither of them are aviable for android

[–] Thorned_Rose@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

Ironfox for Android

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

https://digdeeper.club/articles/browsers.xhtml has a somewhat comprehensive analysis of a dozen of the browsers you might consider, illuminating depressing (and sometimes surprising) privacy problems with literally all of them.

In the end it absurdly recommends something which forked from Firefox a very long time ago, which is obviously not a reasonable choice from a security standpoint. I don't have a good recommendation, but I definitely don't agree with that article's conclusion: privacy features are pointless if your browser is trivially vulnerable to exploits for a plethora of old bugs, which will inevitably be the case for a volunteer-run project that diverged from Firefox a long time ago and thus cannot benefit from Mozilla's security fixes in each new release.

However, despite its ridiculous conclusion, that page's analysis could still be helpful when you're deciding which of the terrible options to pick.

[–] Firipu@startrek.website 3 points 2 months ago

While it was an interesting read, the article is quite outdated and the author is overly negative of literally everything, not just privacy. If a browser has a glowy button, it's horrible because it's too fancy... I feel for the guy...

[–] Biserko@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

Ironfox on Android, easily is the best.

[–] datendefekt 6 points 2 months ago (4 children)

So I haven't been following the Firefox thing that closely. Fennec isn't an alternative because it uses Firefox's Sync and Brave is out of the question because it's crypto Chrome?

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[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

LibreWolf is what I use, but I heard Zen Browser is another fork that's been getting some traction. I don't use it though, but I've heard from someone who does that it works for them. thumbs-up

[–] rageagainstmachines@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Zen looks good, but being more unique couldn't it get fingerprinted more easily?

Also their community is on Discord, which to me is a red flag quite frankly. I realize it's separate from the browser, but still. Discord no good.

Yeah I don't personally like how unlike LibreWolf it doesn't use ResistFingerprinting.

[–] trhbd@scribe.disroot.org 3 points 2 months ago

these days if i find any project exclusively active on socials like discord and twitter, and github forge, i quit using it. i mean i wont be registering an account there just for community support.

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[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

Been using Zen for the past week. It takes some getting used to, but it's been great so far.

[–] trhbd@scribe.disroot.org 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

librewolf, mullvad, zen browser? all fork of firefox

[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Not really an option because he said Android

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[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 2 months ago
[–] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

Cromite is exceptional.

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