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We typically like Pixel phones a lot, but we have some reservations about Google's quality control

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

My Motorola Edge 30 is fantastic and the best phone I've ever had. I think the massive focus on Samsung and Pixel phones are paid and bought for by ad companies.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How long do you get updates? Also, is that for every component? What ARM version does it use?

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They have said 3 years of software updates. It's on Android 13 now and got it's last security update in December 2023.

Not sure about arm version but probably you can find info about that online. It's an Edge 30 Pro.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago

Okay so they are not good with Updates, because Android 14 is out since October, and at least Google ships full security patches every month, i.e. somewhere in Februrary.

GrapheneOS consumes the Google updates into its build system, so it is very fast. They had support for the Pixel Tablet in a day after release, which is crazy.

OEM manufacturers get early access to the codebase because they need to modify their kernels etc, so delaying an update that long is just bad.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Google Pixels suck.

The 4a did everything right. Plastic cover? Yeah you use a protective case anyways.

The 6a that I now have is worse. I sent back a 7pro because it was so horrible. I dont want a tablet, I want a phone.

the camera

is worse! I cant believe that but I compared pictures. At least the selfie Camera is absolute garbage.

size, shape, materials

  • the phone is huge
  • its rectangle size is worse to hold in the hand
  • the 6a had some kind of plastic which is durable. The 7pro I had has a glass back? Wtf why?

fingerprint sensor

is so much worse. Why put it behind a display? I actually replaced one, so that is not the problem. But you cant unlock directly, they are waaay less reliable and you often need to create duplicate scans. Compare that to the damn 4a (and all other fingerprint sensors of that time) that just worked instantly.

No headphone jack

This is such a pain as an audiophile. I have awesome headphones and of course they are on a cable.

Bluetooth is factiually worse.

  • It takes forever to connect (apple devices alway connect first for example).
  • the controls for pause etc. take like a second to work
  • you always broadcast your Bluetooth ID around
  • you are attackable, like the iPhone DDOS attack
  • you need more tiny battery powered devices for nothing
  • headphones are always more expensive and often have worse audio quality

If you want to use normal headphones, the only good DACs are by Google and Samsung, and at least german electronic markets (!) dont have them.

And if you use a DAC, this works over USB. If you need to allow random USB devices all the time, this means you are also attackable through a cable.


My Pixel 4a is a bit slow, but the battery still lasts over a week in idle. I use it as an alarm clock now as its insecure.

I have not tested a Pixel 8, and the hardware for sure sounds appealing. But if Google continues this shitty path of useless "inventions" like the Fingerprint sensor behind the Glass, unnecessary huge and fragile phones, and purposeful decrease in security by needing Bluetooth all the time, while actively contributing to E-Waste, I will never recommend them.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What's your next phone gonna be?

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Pixel 8(a), until there is an alternative that meets GrapheneOS requirements. Poorly.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Does the Fairphone meet gOS' requirements?

Edit: Apparently not, unfortunately. I'm probably gonna keep getting whatever Google comes up with next.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

No, by far not.

https://discuss.grapheneos.org/?q=fairphone%205

Basically:

  • they are extremely late on Updates, like months behind
  • they claim to have an update timespan they cannot have because certain parts will not be updated anymore and firmware vulnerabilities are a thing
  • their hardware is not secure enough
  • they dont meet the minimum requirements

https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This post strikes me as a little hyperbolic but I definitely agree that they've gone downhill in a lot of ways. I have a 3a and that genuinely feels better made than the more expensive 7a I tested recently. They had a good thing going with the size and feel of their older devices and they totally fucked it.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago

In that case, its not hyperbolic :D

I has a 7pro and it was so damn huge. Sent it back again.

[–] blindsight@beehaw.org 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

My Pixel 7a's battery life was so terrible I just gave up on the phone. I was literally charging it 2 times a day from sub-10% to 100% with light use (no games, no intense apps, under 2h SoT for the full day). I lost 7%+ per hour idle. Days when I actually needed to use my phone, I'd need to bring my charger for a third mid-day top up to 100%.

I bought a Sony Xperia 10 V to replace it. It's not perfect (it doesn't support all the NA carrier bands so signal is a bit spotty in big stores), but the battery life is amazing. Same usage patterns and I only go from 80% to 50% most days. I only 100% charge once/month for battery health. I frequently go 1Β½-2 days without charging. I don't know how well it plays games, but with 8GB RAM, it's snappy with app multitasking. Oh, and I can plug it into my car (3.5mm). And it's a 68mm wide, so quite easy to use one-handed.

I had been buying Google phones exclusively since the early Nexus days, but I'm unlikely to buy one again. At least for the foreseeable future.

I hope Google can figure their shit out. It's bad for everyone when Apple and Samsung capture increasingly large marketshare, and Google's fuck ups are turning people off smaller vendors.

[–] Frederic@beehaw.org 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Were you using Firefox? On my phone, FF browser takes ~5% battery per hour, even if I force close it, there is some background task eating battery. I uninstall it and bam! No more 40% drain during the night but only 2-3% drain in 8 hours.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I am using Mull (on a Pixel 6a) and it took 3% with 40min screen time. Thats great.

I have no idea what is causing that for you.

I am also using

  • ublock origin
  • noscript
  • dark background light text (saves a ton of screen energy)
[–] Teknikal@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

All I know that really surprised me is I'd been disgusted with nothing phone 1 constantly rebooting for no reason since an update (still does it).

When I complained on a reddit sub about it I got a ton of replies saying it's normal and not as bad as the pixel phones.

I've nowhere to go with that people are defending a completely unstable buggy phone and I've owned half a dozen androids before that and never seen any of them just randomly restarting.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago

Nothing Phone is a scam?

[–] MaXimus421@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

r/android comment section giving the expected behavior as usual. These news sites know how to be a puppet master, I'm telling ya.

Webite wants to push pro Pixel discussion:

Proceeds to drop a article with a sensationalist title that triggers said Pixel owners.

Comment section is immediately filled with folks declaring how great their Pixel is.

This tactic flip flops between OEMS. It's generally in Samsungs favor but not always.

Disclaimer: Idgf what phone you own. I'm only speaking on what is painfully obvious to me.