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Outlook got updated on my iPhone last night and now they want me to agree to having my data shared with 807 partners.

Important note: I don’t use outlook as my primary email provider. I use Proton with a custom domain but I keep outlook for some old emails.

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[–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Ridiculous. How can someone write "we value your privacy" and then share data with 807 partners. If I share anything with 8 people I pretty much consider it public information already, unless I have a very good reason to trust them. Sharing something with 807 companies is probably less private than taking all that data, putting it up on a billboard, and placing that billboard next to the busiest place in town.

[–] skoadphilmore@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

There is a monetary value in what you want to keep private, so of course they value your privacy.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

807 is too big for a typical auditorium.

Imagine an auditorium filled to capacity with people standing at the back and crouching in the rows. At the front of the auditorium a Microsoft spokesman is saying "Ok partners, here's the confidential data. Make sure nobody shares it beyond this room. Ok, so David wrote a letter to his mother Nancy on March 2nd, which included the keywords 'prostate', 'cancer' and 'diagnosis'. If you'd like to use those words to show David some ads, go right ahead -- but make sure nobody beyond this room knows this confidential information. Next up is Martha..."

[–] Chup@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

It's not that they now changed something with data collection and sharing within the update. They always did it, all services free of charge do it and most that cost money likely take the extra money as well.

It's now that they tell you in a short and informative way (1st sentence) and ask for your consent.

What's really infuriating, are websites and services that have an "Accept All" button but no "Reject All". Instead you have to manage individually and sometimes I have to flip 30 separate buttons to disable data sharing, where they even call advertisers a 'necessary 3rd party' requiring interaction on top.

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That was a loophole to the original GDPR. That's now against the law in the EU, but bringing cases against all these sites is time consuming.

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago

There is usually now a "reject all but essential" button. Well, it's an improvement.

[–] colorsoloud@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I always flip the 30 buttons and then accidentally click Accept All because it’s in the place that I would expect the Confirm My Choices button to be and I am tired of looking at all the buttons and don’t read the most important one. I always tell myself I’ll slow down next time, but I’m just trying to get to the stupid website to read whatever stupid link I clicked on so I’m impatient every time.

[–] brrt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

This is by design. It’s called dark patterns.

the reject all button should atleast be normalized

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 points 8 months ago

They want you to think that "to value it" in this context means "to have it in high steem". When it's more like "to put a price tag on it".

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

chad europe union, to expose that shit

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I love so many things that EU has done especially with GDPR But then they come up with this crap and you wonder what they were thinking

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think the intend here is pretty obvious? I also think the reaction over it is kinda overblown.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I totally understand the intention. It just doesn't work irl. Especially with youghurt and milk cartons. I assume they will do the same to detergents too?

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago

I like it especially on the milk cartons. They really don't matter if you pour it into something to drink like my coffee.

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

They were thinking that those caps were among the top items found littering beaches. So they put forward this measure to attempt to curb that issue.

Nobody should be buying single use bottles anyway if there are alternatives available. Maybe that's the quiet part - making them less attractive to consumers

Drinking from a can only works from one side, so I guess think of it that way.

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Nobody should be buying single use bottles anyway if there are alternatives available. Maybe that's the quiet part - making them less attractive to consumers

Wow. I got played. I did finally switch to just drinking tap water and the number of single use plastic bottles I go through each weak is down by 90% or smth. Just like 2-3 bottles of coke left. I buy some local off-brand stuff cause screw big corporations.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

But are they though? Personally i see many bottles littered and even more lids from cups. Actually why are straws replaced with paper but the lids are still plastic? And why not ban plastic bottles alltogether like they've done with so many other things?

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This looks great! I wish we had this in Australia.

[–] Swarfega@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I'm sure it will come. The first time I drank from one of these I was confused and thought my cap had a manufacturing defect so pulled it off. It was only afterwards that I saw on the packaging what it was.

[–] toastus@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago

Do you actually wonder?

Those caps get lost way less and since the bottles themselves usually get recycled now the caps also stay in the cycle.

And it took me like 5 bottles to get used to it.
Even a slow learner should get it sooner or later.

[–] twinnie@feddit.uk 0 points 8 months ago

I wonder how many people haven’t realised that the new Mail/Outlook client, the one they’re pushing everyone towards in Windows, actually syncs all your mail to MS servers.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wait.. is this real or parody? At this point I can no longer tell...

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Reality has become parody. There's no difference anymore.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

At least there's a "reject all" button.

[–] Gobbel2000@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago

That's GDPR coming through.