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[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Corn farmers have entered the chat

[–] ericbomb@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Sorry corn farmers, this is about people food. Growing fuel doesn't really count.

Growing corn that is only usable as animal feed counts as part of how beef industry is being propped up by the government.

So yeah... I think only one or two corn farmers will be left in the chat after that.

[–] TvanBuuren@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Here it's not just that.

The raw resources and production costs of oat milk is like, €0.30 per 2 liter.

They sell it at €2.40.

Healthy is capitalism here.

[–] tja@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I believe they also put a lot of resources into research

[–] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Oat milk is just oats blended in water. The research is minimal. The marketing is where they put most of their money.

[–] BonfireOvDreams@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

May as well not considering willful complicity in their deaths is wrong.

[–] ericbomb@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh well yes.

If it wasn't obvious I'm a raging vegetarian. Just annoying.

[–] BonfireOvDreams@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] ericbomb@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I like honey and saying I'm a vegan while eating honey makes some vegans mad.

Posting pictures like that to vegetarians is like no one likes us.

[–] BonfireOvDreams@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'd agree that it's not. What about honey makes you feel like you need it or otherwise that it is somehow different than eating other animal products? If you use it just because you like it, you could argue the same for any other animal product. I'm primarily concerned with their lack of consent, in some cases the clipping of queen bee wings & confinement to a fixed space, & resource theft. There's also the concerns of native bee populations being unable to compete with honey bees.

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's worth noting that in countries like US, it's really only things like beyond burgers and impossible meat that cost more. It doesn't require eating those for a plant-based diet nor are people typically eating those every meal, is why plant-based diets generally have lower costs

Compared to meat eaters, results show that “true” vegetarians do indeed report lower food expenditures

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0921800915301488?via%3Dihub

It found that in high-income countries:

• Vegan diets were the most affordable and reduced food costs by up to one third.

• Vegetarian diets were a close second.

• Flexitarian diets with low amounts of meat and dairy reduced costs by 14%.

• By contrast, pescatarian diets increased costs by up to 2%.

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-11-11-sustainable-eating-cheaper-and-healthier-oxford-study

[–] ericbomb@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Oh yeah I 100% spend less on food as a vegetarian, because black beans/lentils are such wonderful cheap sources of protein.

But sometimes I want like the premade like meat crumbles or burgers, and those cost more usually.

[–] TheFriendlyDickhead@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I realy don't get why people eat those meat subsidies. They are realy not that good and unhealthy too. Cooking a meal just with vegetables and other stuff can taste realy good, is healthy and cheap at the same time.

[–] WetBeardHairs@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Probably because Americans were raised on a super meat heavy diet. Meat burgers. Meat casseroles. Meat sauces. Meat everything. Fake meats make those recipes achievable for vegetarians and vegans who long for mom's home cooking.

[–] Ataraxia@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Italian here, sardegna. Sausage, porchetto, chicken, lamb (lots of it), small baby birds, brains, all kinds of fish especially sword fish, octopus and Squid, lots of cured meats... the list goes on. Every meal has a meat and we live the longest in italy.