The nightshade family also gives us a lot of important vegetables. Potatoes, tomatoes, and peppers being the most common but others as well.
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And then there's Brassica oleracea, where it's not even a family, but one single species that brings us a heap of classic veggies including cabbage, broccoli, cauliflower, kale, Brussels sprouts, and gai lan. If you expand to its family you can add turnip, bok choy, radish, wasabi, as well as the majority of source vegetables in the eponymous "vegetable oil".
Brussel sprouts? That's not a vegetable, that's heresy! Awful stuff. The rest can be good, depending on the context though.
For what it's worth, though I don't think I've ever had them in any form, I've heard that the poor reputation of Brussels sprouts is due to the popular way of cooking them in the '30s through '80s being to boil the shit out of them. They're supposed to be quite good if you cook them the right way.
They've also had a lot of the bitterness bred out of them since the 90s. The ones I've eaten recently are less bad than I remember as a kid.
They're still bad tho
They should never have been consumed bitter. When they are frozen the bitter substance is destroyed. In former times this implied being harvested only after the first night frosts in autumn, never before. Nowadays there might be some more artificial ways to achieve the same result more reliable. (Perhaps by breeding, too, I'm not sure about this part.)
Taste changes with age, too. The younger, the sweeter and the older, the bitterer people prefer.
I am very sad I can't eat these anymore due to IBS
I was this way for years. I eventually recovered a lot and slowly weened back onto them. Good luck and take care.
Thank you for the kind words! I didn't know I could maybe have these again at some point in the future. Did you just try them every now and again to see how you reacted? Do you still need to watch out?
Just saw this. For me, I found a medication that helped me a lot and I worked on my diet as well. Not just fodmaps but slowly becoming vegan. That helped me regrow my gut biome a lot. I also experimented with fecal transplants, believe it or not. And I went to a pian clinic and they injected a numbing agent into my nerves. This may or may not have been effective. I tried a lot of things. But I think the diet and medication were the most helpful. Then when I was a bit stronger I slowly tried a lit bit more garlic and onion powder and then eventually fresh garlic and onions. I would have a bit of a response but not much. And after a while that response went away.
What medication would that be? I have found enzymes that seem to help with fructans and GOS, do you mean those?
I've heard of fecal transplants before, but that it's simply unknown at this point if it helps with IBS. Hypnosis seems to be helpful for some people as well.
For sure, Celebrex, an NSAID. I had really bad pain and ended up in the hospital and was given Toradol and it helped immediately, and then the doctor gave me a prescription for celebrex afterwards, I took it daily for a while and that was years ago, now I take it as backup if things get bad.
Ye, I suspected that my gut bacteria was a big part of the issue. I found when I did the transplants it always helped. But you have to jump through a lot of hoops to do it safely and effectively. And it may be illegal. And of course, the ick factor is real.
Thanks for sharing your story!