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[–] alex@jlai.lu 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Being emotionally detached from really stupid leadership decisions is harder than it seems

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Took me a lot of years to not think it's my company that is being run into the ground. I should not - and nowadays could not - care any less.

[–] Kissaki@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

my company

You mean "my responsibility", right?

[–] jbrains@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The book The Responsibility Virus helped me a lot with this. Most people are over-responsible for the choices of others, specifically ones they can't reasonably influence, anyway.

[–] GuyWithLag@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I found out that https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-or-the-office-according-to-the-office/ explains a lot of the dysfunctions that one finds in an office / corporate environment.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm determined to ever only work in public, state-owned companies. I believe in a causal connection between being a private, profit-oriented business and the daily "wtf" moments, the only true measure of quality.

Edit: fixed the link.

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The company doesn't care about you. The company doesn't care about you. The company doesn't care about you.

[–] ME5SENGER_24@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

My uncle spent years preaching to me about the need to be loyal to a company. I never drank the Kool-Aid. He spent 21 years working for an investment banking company in their IT department. 4 years before he was set to retire with a full pension, etc. his company was acquired by a larger bank. He lost everything except his 401k. He then spent the next 12 years working to get his time back so he’d be able to retire. He died 2 years ago and the company sent a bouquet of flowers.

THE COMPANY DOESN’T CARE ABOUT YOU!!

[–] XEAL@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Not even if you do valuable or efficent stuff for the company. You're disposable.

[–] Waldowal@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You don't have to run the rat race to get promoted. You don't have to be at your desk at 7am and leave at 7pm to put on a show. Just be competent. Most people are not. You'll eventually get promoted once you are old and white enough.

[–] PeachMan@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

It should be noted that this is advice specific to white men in Western countries πŸ˜† but yes, it's true.

[–] Pansen@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Fully agree. You can be lazy AF, as long as you get a few key assignments done or overfulfill them. Everybody will be like 'ooh, he so good' and forget that you don't do shit for 95% of the time.

[–] incogtino@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your employer does not care about you. You are not important or irreplaceable

Take your time and energy and put it into your life, not their business

I have had coworkers die (not work related) and by the time you hear about it (like the next day) they have already worked out who will get the work done so the machine doesn't have to stop

[–] Kissaki@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

I don't think taking action to fill a hole is indicative of not caring.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

If the company claims that "you need to work overtimes because we are short on stuff", then that's definitely their failure to hire more people. NEVER work overtime, except if you get appropriate compensation for it.

"No" means "no", also in and especially in the work environment. If your boss asks you to stay longer to "finish the task", just say "no" and walk away.

[–] xNekoyaki@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yup. At my last job, I did my best to produce quality work, I got an award for making zero errors in a year, and I was one of the go-to people for new employees to ask for advice. I trained new team members, even while I was still a temp myself. Eventually got told that I was joining the team that dealt with all the escalation emails. I only knew how to work on 2 of the many types of products that went into that folder, but it was mandatory to work every single email that went into that box, 2 hour shift, every email had to be answered by the end of the 2hrs. I also only had a single 30min super quick "training" on how to even answer the emails (really complicated template system, which I still did not understand by the end of it)

I told my manager I wasn't comfortable working in that box, considering they never trained me to work on most of the other products, but she ignored me and said I'd figure it out. Luckily, I only had to do it once, then they delayed my actual start date for that task, until I got laid off (along with most of the rest of my team) 3 months later. YAAAAAAY. :|

[–] lichtmetzger@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Sounds like they needed an excuse to get rid of you easily.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  • You are more important than the company, put you and your family first.

  • If your company doesn't provide a pension plan you have no reason to be loyal and stay.

  • Telework is an excuse for minimal working. Most remote workers schedule emails, get their work done quickly than spend the work day doing personal work on the clock.

  • Charisma is more important than performance for career progression.

  • Favorite employees are typically the easiest to be manipulated and taken advantage of.

[–] lichtmetzger@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Most remote workers schedule emails, get their work done quickly than spend the work day doing personal work on the clock.

That's the biggest load of bs I've ever read. I work just as hard as my colleagues in the office and I don't clock out after half a day.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then you are doing it wrong.

[–] lichtmetzger@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or maybe I respect my boss because he respects me so I don't have a reason to fuck with him.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is your choice, but your coworkers are getting paid the same and doing a lot less.

[–] lichtmetzger@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Or they just do as much as I do.

[–] patomaloqueiro@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Minimum wage, minimum effort

[–] superfly_samurai@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago

There's no such thing as quiet quitting. I prefer acting your wage.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

HR protect the company first, the employees second.

[–] Elw@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

100%. The rebranding of some HR departments as "People Officers" or "People Team" drives me bonkers. When push comes to shove, they will always protect the interests of the business before the interests of the employee. Full stop.

[–] NoSleep@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago

You are right, but to be fair. "Human Ressources" was an awful name to begin with.

[–] Polymath@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The longer you work anywhere -- and I mean ANYWHERE -- the more you see the bullshit and corruption and crappy rules or policies and inequality all over.
For me it has been about the 3 year mark anywhere I've worked: once you get past that, you fade away from "damn I'm glad to have a job and be making money!" and towards "this is absolute bulls#!t that [boss] did [thing] and hurt the workers in the process!" or similar

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

3 years? What nirvana corp do you work at?

[–] darkstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Funny, that's actually what motivated me at my last job. Things were fucked up, but not so fucked up that it was overwhelming. It was the Goldilocks zone of just fucked up enough that I think I can not only fix it, but look good if I do. It was a fun journey, all told, but there were definitely frustrations, even ones that lasted years.

[–] Polymath@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

the Goldilocks zone of just fucked up enough

Hahaha, I love it

[–] Wakkawakkawakka@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What job do you have where you’re not allowed to take care of your health when necessary?

[–] tryagain@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think we can all guess the country. I wish you all the best, wakkawakkawakka.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I learnt meritocracy is a joke long before I discovered that it was literally invented to be a joke.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] Signtist@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Efficient workers get more work if you're in the office. I work from home, and that allows me to work efficiently until my work is done, set up scheduled emails to go out at the time I would've otherwise been done, then do what I want until then.

I see your work doesn't have invasive programs that check idle mouse and idle keyboard behaviors.

this is an old one but i can't help thinking, what if they installed it without my knowledge, after all, my work laptop was given to me already pre prepared by our IT department.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

They're not your friends, even if they act like that.

The management just sees you as expense factor and does not care about you except for how to get the most work done for the least amount of money. Your team leader does not care about you and only cares if their numbers look good. Your colleagues do not care about you and only see you as competition or the idiot they can give their work to.

If someone is nice to you they want something from you not because they like you.

[–] CoolBeance@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's suffocating to be in a middle management position because you get squeezed by the higher-ups and your own team. If the higher-ups make a decision that your team dislikes or vice versa, you're going to be in the shitter with whichever party suffered every time even if you had the best intentions.

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 11 months ago

If you make your work processes more efficient, you don’t need to tell anyone right away, if at all.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck the company, don't get lured into a feeling of "fAmiLy" or even loyality towards them. Do as little work as possible, get as much money out of them as possible, then switch companies and get a significant pay rise. Rinse and repeat.

[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's no shame in job hopping if it benefits you

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Exactly my point :)

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're not interviewing for a job, they're interviewing to be your employer.

[–] friendlymessage@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

It's always both. Both sides should determine whether company and applicant are a good fit.

[–] friendlymessage@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

A lot of truth in this thread, albeit too cynical for my taste. Yes, the company as soulless, emotionless entity doesn't care for you. However, your coworkers might, even your boss.

Also, my main take away:

  • make sure you know your worth
  • make sure the right people know your worth
  • make sure the right people know that you know your worth

The money is not worth it if you dont enjoy what you are doing.