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[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sorry citizen, every time you enter the bar we've got to take a swab from your genitals to check that since you were last here you haven't fucked any kids.

Fucking ridiculous. If you want to prevent CSAM spreading across Europe do this instead:

  • new funding for a cross boarder specialist taskforce to coordinate law enforcement agencies.
  • hide the identity of defendant and victim during trials.
  • offer a slightly lighter sentence to offenders if they successfully help with bringing down the rings.
  • a large cross-boarder sting operation.
  • new funding for therapy for offenders to reform them and during and after they've served their time.
  • new funding for a confidential service to provide prevention therapy to potential offenders before they commit that horrid act against a child.

Investigation and surgical removal of the whole rotten ring of kid fuckers will curve CSAM creation and distribution in the EU.

Then preventative measures to stop creators/ consumers of CSAM because prevention is more effective than trying to cure it.

Child sexual abuse is one of, if not the most evil act someone can commit and they should face very steep punishment for it. And anyone proposing any policy offering help to reform them is committing political suicide.

But ignoring the fact that people have the capacity to commit an evil act of that magnitude, demonising them, and then offering no support network to prevent them is not going to solve the problem. It doesn't work for any crime and certainly not this.

[–] FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Unfortunately stopping CSAM isn’t the point. The point is eroding privacy and pretending it’s protecting kids.

[–] Jocker@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

May I also suggest surveiling every knife in every kitchen, since people historically had killed other people with knife

[–] neeeeDanke@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Two German states are about to attempt introducing a law at the federal level banning all knives with blades longer then 6cm (~~1.5~2.3 in) from beeing carried in publicin public.

Source in german: https://www.swr.de/swraktuell/rheinland-pfalz/messer-verbot-gesetz-bundesrat-rlp-100.html

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The real offenders (except for some stupid rookies) move to the dark web and won't touch the official apps while politicians use this power to scan for political and environmental activists, opponents and critics.

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I said the same to a coworker this week. If i were to be part or manage an illegal ring like csam, id make my own protocol/app that just uses encryption. Youre already doing illegal shit, go one further so you dont get caught

[–] Zink@programming.dev 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Feels like a strange move, from an American who is used to seeing the EU do things that should put our government to shame.

Are they trying to get the US to join the EU? Lol

[–] Chrobin@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Every other year the EU tries to pass another mass surveillance law - and the EU court of human rights rules it illegal.

[–] sircac@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] neeeeDanke@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago

This one was not passed yet.

The vote was pulled in the last minute, because they didn't expect to get the required qualified majority. This was among other things due to the German governmant announcing to vote against it.

Germany is about to have an election next year though and the conservative and faschist parties are expected to win, I doubt they would be holding this position. France is also having an election soon with the faschists expected to win big. And their current government is responsible for this law not beeing even worse.

TLDR: It didn't pass yet, but this will not be the last attempt at passing it.

[–] faizalr@kbin.run 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] AIhasUse@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

This is that super forward-thinking EU tech protection we are always hearing about that the whole world should be so jealous of.

[–] Brickardo@feddit.nl 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Suppose the bill goes through. Is there any reliable alternative for privately communicating? Asking for myself.

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Open Source. And fuck it, it's not enforceable for private anyway.

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 0 points 3 months ago

Yet again? Salamitaktik?

[–] zyratoxx@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Positive news: at least Germany will reject it, let's hope more members follow their lead

According to [German Federal Minister of the Interior] Nancy Faeser, it is appropriate to "hold online platforms accountable so that depictions of abuse are discovered, deleted and the perpetrators prosecuted". However, if the current proposal remains, the representative of the Federal Republic of Germany would have to vote no, said the SPD politician. "Because we must take targeted action and maintain the balance of the rule of law. Encrypted private communications of millions of people must not be monitored without cause.

https://www.heise.de/en/news/Chat-control-Germany-will-vote-against-current-proposal-9770051.html