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(No, just keep on. These kinds of regulations were long overdue)

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[–] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

DO MANDATORY 3.5mm JACK NOW

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yes. Also I need a SCSI connector. Do that obsolete piece of shit as well.

[–] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

THE PERSON THAT DOWNVOTED THIS DESERVES THEIR AIRPODS TO RUN OUT OF BATTERY DURING A 12 HOUR FLIGHT SITTING NEXT TO A CHILD AND THEIR CHATTY NO-VAX-MAKING-MY-OWN-BREAD-LOOK-AT-THE-PICTURES-OF-MY-C-SECTION-DELIVERY MOTHER

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

I'm with you. I still use my 3.5mm jack daily. I've got some cheap PC stereo speakers next to my bed, so I can listen to stuff to fall asleep to. They suck for music, but are just fine for audiobooks for instance.

[–] Kagami@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

At least the EU protects consumers' rights, which is a breath of fresh air and it is something to be appreciated. Not going to lie.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Especially in contrast to the US who completely stopped pretending to support consumers.

[–] BaconIsAVeg@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are they objectively doing this to help consumers though, or is there another reason and it just so happens to benefit consumers.

[–] lukstru@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are doing it to help consumers and protect the environment by forcing modularity and recyclable components.

[–] BaconIsAVeg@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure buddy. EU politicians are just absolute saints compared to the rest of the world, and there's nothing in it for them. Jesus.

[–] lukstru@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't be salty because we've got a working democracy ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ sure, it isn't perfect, but it's not all about the money here. Being a politician on that level already pays quite nicely without being bought by a company or two. And voters have a lot of power over who gets into the EU parliament, so a lot of them really do represent the common folks.

[–] lorez@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For a second I was thinking about chromebooks because you can't install native packages and only install apps from Play Store. Till I remember that you can enable app-dev mode to install any .apk (sideload). But does it count? I need to enable dev-app mode which can't be reverted. Additionally it annoys you on the lock screen with a red text that this chromebook has unverified packages. You can always enable it without any further downsides.

But at least you can install natively Linux on any Chromebook like a normal x86 Laptop or ARM64 Device.

[–] lorez@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, the EU wants sideloading on iOS starting from 2024 iirc.

[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For all IPhones or only new ones?

[–] lorez@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

For all the iphones getting updated in 2024 although they mentioned with iOS 17. In EU. Dunno if Apple will extend the thing outside Europe.

[–] bram@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please tell me that there's a Lemmy community out there for EU memes.

[–] Zyratoxx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

!yurop@antemeridiem.xyz or !yurop@dbzer0.com

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately "USB-C" means nothing. It just describes what type of connector to use.

[–] RockHard@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

You just said it means nothing, then explained what it means. Why is it unfortunate that apple will need to put UBC C on the single device that still doesn't have it FROM THEIR OWN LINEUP.

[–] koorool@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Something that I haven't seen mentioned on this topic:

having a spare charged battery with you also have so much more sense than carrying a powerbank. No losses transferring power to phone, no excessive heat, MUCH lighter.

This is what we have for radios (walkie-talkies), drones, cameras, but not for phones, where we really need this.

[–] kamiheku@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We're not necessarily talking about "pop the back open and slam a new one in" batteries a la Nokia 3310, but rather being able to replace a battery at the end of its lifecycle without special expertise and tools, but still, with some amount of effort required.

That's the requirement at least, but companies are of course free to choose either approach.

According to a draft version of the ecodesign regulation on the EU’s website, batteries should be replaceable “with no tool, a tool or set of tools that is supplied with the product or spare part, or basic tools.”

https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/24/23771064/european-union-battery-regulation-ecodesign-user-replacable-batteries

[–] koorool@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Thank you for clarification and context.

I'm daydreaming about potential feature and sell point some manufacturers may adapt to bring this regulation further into a win-win for themselves and customers. So yes, essentially bring me 3310 back :)

[–] the_brownie@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Look, I'm happy about the EU regulating these things and think it's great for the overall ecosystem. But can we please stop with the "Apple users are braindead" circlejerk? It's so fucking cringe, and it unironically reminds me of the unebearable zeal that Apple cultists used to (and probably still do but I see it less) impose on anyone who made the mistake of getting to close to them.

I've had many Android phones over the years, and one iPhone 8. While I am considering moving to a de-Googled Android for privacy reasons, I have to say, my iPhone has held up better than any of my Android phones (Galaxy S3, S4, LG G3) did, without needing to replace the battery. Just because you can't understand why someone might want one doesn't mean everyone who gets an iPhone is an idiot.

I would much rather have left this kind of tech chest-beating over at reddit.

Edit: This was directed more towards the community as a whole and to the commenters I've seen saying this kind of thing in this thread and most other threads like it in lemmy/reddit. The original post by OP isn't really what I was responding to.

[–] net00@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those who are still on the 'apple bad' train like to forget they are running an OS built by an ads company.

Every phone manufacturer has some bad shit, I choose to stick with apple cuz I already have a big library of paid stuff.

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Excuse you, I use CalyxOS on my phone. I also use Linux on my PC. Am I allowed back on the "apple bad" train? Tbh, I don't think Apple products are bad. I just hate the company, just like many MANY others.

[–] Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

EU has its many flaws but they pretty much doing their job in regards of consumer rights, human rights and protection of personal data.

[–] Zyratoxx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If we could only fix that veto issue... And the parliament issue... Someday hopefully :')

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hungarian is against fixing the Veto Issue!

[–] Zyratoxx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] abcd@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Viktor is it you?

[–] fritz@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Human rights? Lol I wish, frontex is just waiting to start shooting migrants at the borders

[–] peachybuttcheek@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unpopular opinion: most migrants come to Europe from safe countries. We should absolutely 100% allow people who flee from war zones to take refuge in Europe. But most migrants who currently cross the border illegally are coming from places like Turkey or Morocco. Is there a war tearing these countries apart that I do not know about? I agree, asylum is a human right, but it’s just that: a right. It’s not an obligation. People abuse that right and then complain they’re not handed stuff on a silver plate.

If Europe went to war right now, like in the good old days, I’d flee to safety as well. No doubt about that. But I’d be happy to take refuge in the nearest safe country, not try to get into Canada illegally, just because I heard it’s a nice place to live.

[–] Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That's not an unpopular opinion, that's just a sheltered opinion. A few things you need to get out of your head:

  1. That so called 'safe countries' are safe for everyone. This doesn't say anything about those countries, it only says how little you know about them.
  2. People seek asylum trivially and are choosy beggars for going to X country (doesn't matter where, this kind of sentiment is always the same)
  3. Europe going to war was 'the good old days'.
  4. That Europe isn't at war right now
  5. The act of being born in a 'safe country' makes you more deserving of it than other human beings
[–] fritz@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

Most people come from Turkey or Morocco? They might come from there but most of the asylum seekers nationality is not Turkish or Moroccan. Most asylum seekers are from Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq or poorer African nations. This changed year by year of course but that’s generally true. Also of course EU states have an obligation to respect human rights, it’s literally law in the European convention of human rights. A right implies an obligation by somebody else to honor that right. What does it matter if your home country is at war or not? If you can’t feed your family due to economic problems or climate change or whatever, it’s more than fair enough to get out of there.