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[–] Merlu@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

-Karl Marx: his ideology, that intended to fight oppression, was only used to build dictatorships.

-Martin Luther King: institutionalized racism is still alive and well.

-Marsha P. Johnson: the current situation of american queer -and especially trans- people in America is self explanatory.

[–] vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 days ago

Fred Durst?

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If we used Thomas Edison, we could hook him up to an AC generator and it would be a perpetual motion machine.

if you used someone like MLK Jr. the power would turn off the second we started being nice to black people. But hook Edison up to a Westinghouse AC Generator and the situation itself will light the world for all eternity.

[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago

if you used someone like MLK Jr. the power would turn off the second we started being nice to black people.

Well, maybe a little while after that, if their Letter from Birmingham Jail is still their position. A notable part is about how people just being polite moderates doesn't cut it:

"Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection."

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Curious why you say that? Edison is one of the greatest pieces of shit in inventor history. He has stolen more ideas and put so many small inventors out of business it would boggle your mind. I think he would be salivating at the current state of affairs for electricity and copyright law.

[–] Zess@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Edison was a huge proponent of DC power, so hooking him up to an AC device would endlessly annoy him.

[–] FeloniousPunk@lemmy.today 97 points 3 days ago

I’m going with Nikola Tesla. Just imagine having THAT tasteless shit gibbon slap your name on a product and making gobs of cash off it. The fact Tesla hasn’t awakened from the dead to haunt his ass proves there’s no spirit world. If ANYONE could/would do it, it would have been Nikola Tesla.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 126 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Che Guevarra (I probably misspelled that), If he knew how his face was plasteret on t-shirts sold for profit all over the world. He was already great at revolutions, but the RPM and the torque he would achieve from this would define him as the worlds greatest revolutionary for all eternity.

[–] eightpix@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Socrates.

This man upheld his right to think his own thoughts and to go where the evidence led him. He stood trial and was sentenced to death.

Now, the most powerful people do not think, have zero principles, disregard evidence, and would gladly have others die to secure their power.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Socrates was executed for being super annoying.

[–] eightpix@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

How annoying is it to have idiotic anti-intellectuals running nuclear superpowers?

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Since others have been poking fun but not helping...

"Who's" = "Who is". So the post title asks "Who is rolling grave [...]".

Instead, it should be "whose", which is the possessive form of "who". It's equivalent to "yours" or "his".

[–] TheColonel@reddthat.com 10 points 2 days ago

So what you’re saying is that grammarians, with their total collective rollage, would be the correct answer.

Perhaps, in order to simplify, William Bullokar would be a good answer?

I’m sure I made mistakes here because one can’t discuss grammar without completely fucking it up.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 73 points 3 days ago (3 children)
[–] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago

Damn, that's a double strike!

Calls the Christians out as hypocrites while also denying the resurrection (because he'd still be in his grave).

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

He would be spinning in his grave, except...

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

Definitely, Jesus.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I was going to say George Washington with the direction the US is going he'd be pissed

But someone else said Jesus Christ, so yeah I think I'll go with Jesus

[–] chargen@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 days ago

Yeah but apparently he’s not in his grave right now πŸ˜‚

[–] digdilem@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

I think he had a pretty good run, tbh.

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The guy who invented vaccines.

[–] isaaclyman@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

That would be Edward Jenner. He saved more lives than anyone else in history, and that number increases by the day. If it were up to me, his birthday would be an international holiday and kids would learn his name in elementary school.

[–] Firipu@startrek.website 9 points 2 days ago

My grandfather for sure. No way he would be able to understand the current cultural climate. He basically died from getting worked up about stuff the entire time in the late 90s. I'm 100% sure he never stopped rolling around.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Hiraga Gennai.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 43 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Marx for sure. Gotta be the most misunderstood and purposefully distorted writer I have seen

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

For real. Lenin's introduction to The State and Revolution is evergreen:

What is now happening to Marx's teaching has, in the course of history, happened repeatedly to the teachings of revolutionary thinkers and leaders of oppressed classes struggling for emancipation. During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their teachings with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to surround their names with a certain halo for the "consolation" of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time emasculating the essence of the revolutionary teaching, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it. At the present time, the bourgeoisie and the opportunists within the working-class movement concur in this "doctoring" of Marxism. They omit, obliterate and distort the revolutionary side of this teaching, its revolutionary soul. They push to the foreground and extol what is or seems acceptable to the bourgeoisie. All the social-chauvinists are now "Marxists" (don't laugh!). And more and more frequently, German bourgeois scholars, but yesterday specialists in the annihilation of Marxism, are speaking of the "national-German" Marx, who, they aver, educated the workers' unions which are so splendidly organized for the purpose of conducting a predatory war!

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

State and revolution was the first real theory I read. Quite the introduction

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

Certainly a banger way to start! I think it's easier to appreciate after having read Marx and Engels prior to it, but Lenin is so fiery and darn smarmy with his writing that it's hard not to love the guy, and State and Revolution in particular is a classic for good reason.

He just wanted us to know that coat making was a very complex and fascinating process and look and what that has wrought!

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 days ago

I know that after my death a pile of rubbish will be heaped on my grave, but the wind of History will sooner or later sweep it away without mercy. β€” Not Karl Marx

[–] yngmnwntr@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago

John Brown has been writhing and spinning (and mouldering) in his grave for a very long time. Vengeful Wraith of John Brown for President!

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Aaron Swartz.

Guy was opposed to any and all censorship and was politically left-leaning.

Almost immediately after his death, such people started to die out, opposition to censorship has been a right-wing cause for about the last decade.

[–] Enkrod 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

BULLSHIT. Opposition to censorship continues to be strong on the left. I was there for "Stasi 2.0", "SchΓ€ublone" and "Zensursula". And nobody could EVER justifiably accuse Wolfgang SchΓ€uble or Urula von der Leyen of leftism.

It's continually the right that screeches "cEnSoRsHiP!!1!" when they get deplatformed by someone who has the right to deny them service, but it's also the right that continually tries to implement state censorship.

Those keywords you mention were a thing before 2013.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

Also, to see what his friend Sam Altman and his mentor Paul Graham have become.

[–] therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 days ago

Walt Disney by a long shot

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He's She's It's Who's

His Hers Its Whose

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Thees nuts gotteem

[–] Lilium@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago

Thy or thine

And Watts are Volts Γ— Amps :p

[–] NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

One of the many obscure, mostly forgotten philosophers as college students thinking Philosophy was going to be an easy A absolutely butcher their language and thought.

[–] abrake@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

What Nietzsche really meant in Thus Spoke Zarathustra is that we all just need to get along :)

[–] digdilem@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Alexander Hamilton.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago

Probably William Thomson after his body started breaking the laws of thermodynamics like that.