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GERMANY: Woman Convicted Of “Offending” Migrant Gang Rapists Receives Longer Prison Sentence Than The Rapists - The Publica (www.thepublica.com)
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Can we all agree that rape is worse than offending people?

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[–] janonymous@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, we do agree on that.

The assailants were minors and thus mostly got probation sentences. That's due to German law. This was criticized widely.

Are you allowed to find out the mobile number of the perpetrators and harass them on WhatsApp? Well, not under German law. Two wrongs don't make a right and so on. It's true that she did not get the leniency the assailants got, because she is not a minor (and had been caught stealing before). She was sentenced to a weekend in jail. That is 3 days.

Are both cases comparable and allow us to draw larger conclusions from the differences in their sentencing? I don't think so. They are completely different and only linked by the victim of the latter being a perpetrator of the first.

It does make for a sensational headline, though!

[–] realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

@janonymous @Kaboom The headline is accurate.

Harassment is not worse than rape, the rapists should be facing more time than the person they raped.

[–] janonymous@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I never said harassment was worse. In the first sentence I agree with OP's statement.

However, the reason most of the assailants are not in jail is not because their crime wasn't worse, it's because they are minors. The 19 year-old assailant got 2,5 years jail-time and no probation. The others got between 0,5 and 2 years on probation, which is arguably worse than 3 days in jail.

So, no the headline is not accurate.

Edit: I just reread your post... you think the victim got jail time over harassing her assailants?! That's what these rage-bait headlines do. It's not about what actually happened. It's about triggering the preconceptions of the consumers and pushing them farther into the extremes.

[–] realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

@janonymous The headline is accurate. Remember, this is what it says:

> GERMANY: Woman Convicted Of “Offending” Migrant Gang Rapists Receives Longer Prison Sentence Than The Rapists - The Publica

What makes it accurate is whether or not it is true, whether or not it says what you want it to say. So long as the woman got a longer prison sentence than the rapists, which she did, than it is accurate.

[–] janonymous@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

But she did not? She got 3 days, while the 19-year-old assailant got 2,5 years. I get the feeling you don't read what I'm writing so this is my last response.

[–] BobaFuttbucker@reddthat.com 1 points 4 months ago

He’s not, he’s just trying to assert himself as right. I’m guessing he’s barely skimming your articles. He does that.

Typical reactionary conservative

[–] realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

@janonymous Ahhhhhh I see. Yes, you are right.

[–] squid_slime@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

wow

[–] realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

@squid_slime
Is it that rare for people to admit when they're wrong on the internet?

[–] squid_slime@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago

yes but also how reactionary people are with reading only the title, completely ignoring the correspondence corrections although credit where credits due

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com -2 points 4 months ago

Every other rapist got zero

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As far as outrage porn goes... this is pretty weak lol

Did y'all see Robert Morris was raping 12 year old? Got ZERO PRISON?

[–] realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

@sunzu @Kaboom I heard about that one cuz it went viral in #Christian circles, that story is awful. Probably wouldn't fit in the narrative of this community though since he's white

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Interesting!

What is their perspective on this crime?

[–] realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

@sunzu @Kaboom The Christians? They hate it, and are starting to sour more on celebrity pastors. It's something that's been happening for awhile, but with #RobertMorris and #TonyEvans' scandals happening back-to-back (although #TonyEvans has gotten some tepid respect for voluntarily stepping down, which is fair) has escalated that mistrust.

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for sharing. Good to see people are waking up.

Sadly the longer they stay silent, the more of this will happen..

Outsiders can't really hold these pedos accpitable, state refuses to so it their followers who have to do the hard work.

It is amazing that they don't get dragged out to the town square IMHO

Mob will do harsher shit to lesser offenders but some how pedos don't get it.

There is a lesson in there about how we as society function in there and it is not a good one

[–] realcaseyrollins@noauthority.social -1 points 4 months ago

@sunzu @Kaboom I think when the #CarlLentz situation happened, it really opened the floodgates for pastors to be exposed and their victims to be believed

[–] uzi@lemmy.ca -1 points 4 months ago

The case sounds right, because it is a crime against humanity to hurt someone's feelings. I would assume that using words deemed offensive would merrit the death penalty.