This is not even close to the worst thing they have ever done, but stuff like this is a waste of resources. People mostly want official vertical tabs and more than anything engine performance improvements. (and the ability to pretend to be Chrome in Youtube)
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Please work on tab grouping instead!
Now this would be useful.
It was useful 8 years ago when they removed it, that’s for sure.
Tab groups where natively implemented?
Yes, they worked differently than the way Edge or Chrome do now and were in many ways superior for tab management, much more like Vivaldi’s sessions but more intuitive. I was a heavy user and so am biased. They said “just use an extension!” but it would crash and lose your session (and imo the extension works even worse today). It was really ahead of its time.
Few people used it because they didn’t advertise it or make it easily discoverable. You had to know the shortcut already through osmosis or drag the button out of the customize menu.
Simple tab groups works better tbh. It uses the features to hide, list and manage tabs.
But a native in-line implementation would be best.
Except it's still not available on mobile
True. That is an entirely different UI and also underlying browser issue. Mobile does not have Containers or process isolation.
Closest thing to that feature is this add-on:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/panorama-view/
Very laggy and overcomplicated, but found that too!
Yeah it's kinda laggy but does its job. I guess that was the reason why did they remove it from Firefox, it was slowing things down.
Afaik Epiphany has this.
Never used Epiphany as my main browser but it's nice to have it around as an another open-source browser project. Gotta check that feature.
I mean, why not use Geckoview? Mozilla is doing something really nice and has the only full fledged browser with actual Addon support. Meanwhile GNOME and KDE have half-baked projects that use engines only really maintained by Google and Apple.
Yeah, I don't understand that either. It can be used for something like Electron to run web-like programs but no one does that too.
Well, Thunderbird does that. Thats it. Seamonkey and how they were all called were before my time.
Or vertical icon-only tabs!
Here I'm still waiting for an official vertical tabs feature.
This was already a thing for ages until they killed it, but it is still possible if you are okay with tweaking userChrome.css
Why Mozilla wastes resources on their own implementation instead of providing API's to third party developers is beyond me.
Your first link is based on XUL, which was deprecated because it was wasting resources being unmaintainable and insecure.
Here's a great article about that
This person said XUL is insecure! Any Palemoon users here? Anyone wanting to tell them that Mozilla is totally taking away user Freedom and that Palemoon is a totally secure Browser? XD
If this defaults to on, I’m turning it off.
If this defaults to off, I'm turning it on.
Having Cloudflare work with Firefox would be much more useful. Having horrendous problems with CF+Firefox this past month, always get stuck in the infinite captcha loop.
Cloudflare has pretty much banned me using FF as of late and it sucks ass in a bad way.
I had that issue for a while and it turns out I forgot I had an extension changing my user agent. After I changed it back to default everything worked fine.
I did that too but it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't, it's nuts
This is a useless feature. Here are some purely UI features that are more important, and exist in Chromium:
- more compact hight, saving space (make
browser.compactmode.showofficial!) - CSD decorations (_ 🔳 x) in the top right, hitbox at the very edge, f**k GNOME for this
- Tab groups natively in the Tab bar, its the most organic
Apart from that Firefoxes UI is way better than Chromiums and doesnt need to copy anything.
Then work on performance, process isolation etc.
> more compact tab bar, saving space
Not sure if you're aware, but there's a hidden setting to make Firefox's toolbars more compact:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/compact-mode-workaround-firefox
Cool, will try that!
As I said somewhere else, to get more compact tabs you can go to about:config and search for a setting called browser.tabs.tabMinWidth, I usually change the number to 20 (the default minimum width is like 70) and tabs are allowed to become roughly as narrow as in chrome. And if by "more compact tab bar" you meant how tall tabs are, there's the browser.compactmode.show setting, put it to "true" and then in the Firefox menu under More Tools → Customize Toolbars you can select "compact mode" in the "Density" menu on the bottom, which makes the tab bar and toolbars shorter
No I meant vertical hight. The horizontal width is way better than in Chromium, same with the "scroll tab feature" which works well better.
That second setting ~~is beta~~ is no longer supported so its not shown
Beta? It isn't experimental, it was an official feature that is no longer supported (even if it still works perfectly).
Oh thats even worse haha.