To be fair, he is only the future junior assistant deputy backup president.
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I actually only just realized this implies Trump thinks the USA was allied with the Axis and the Nazis lmao
We went to war against them. That's how Trump treats his allies.
Look at the funny fascist over there, isn't he hilarious? Fun fact: a lot of people also made fun of Hitler.
You know, I fucking hate Trump but I prefer to save my outrage about things he actually said and did. If you really wanna dunk on him, this ain't the time. Look at the actual quote:
"The United States and Italy are bound together by a shared cultural and political heritage dating back thousands of years to Ancient Rome."
I mean, I can't really disagree with that. I'm fucking SICK of journalists converting everything into clickbait. You want some things to be angry about? Here's some ACTUAL shit he did the same week:
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October 16, 2019: During a meeting with congressional leaders about the situation in Syria, President Trump reportedly referred to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi as a "third-grade politician," leading to Pelosi and other Democratic leaders walking out of the meeting.
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October 17, 2019: At a campaign rally in Dallas, Texas, President Trump criticized the ongoing impeachment inquiry, labeling it a "witch hunt" and attacking political opponents, which some viewed as inflammatory rhetoric.
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October 18, 2019: President Trump announced a "permanent" ceasefire in Syria and lifted sanctions on Turkey. Critics argued that his decision to withdraw U.S. troops from northern Syria had enabled Turkish military actions against Kurdish forces, leading to regional instability.
If you want to be annoyed about Trump, there's plenty of actual shit he does. No need to make up shit just to get clicks. Fuck you lazy journalists!
“The United States and Italy are bound together by a shared cultural and political heritage dating back thousands of years to Ancient Rome.”
Yeah that's not actually incorrect too badly. Well perhaps the "bound together" bit but like history for the massive systems, yeah, it is somewhat shared. Common law and whatnot. Although Italy definitely doesn'tuse common law anymore so Trump would be better of comparing US to brits in that sense.
I wholeheartedly agree with you. Why promote inaccurate bullshit and ignore the actual shit he does?
Oh wait, right, propaganda and shit "journalists".
Thanks for the info on those happenings, btw.
Yeah that’s not actually incorrect too badly. Well perhaps the “bound together” bit but like history for the massive systems, yeah, it is somewhat shared. Common law and whatnot. Although Italy definitely doesn’tuse common law anymore so Trump would be better of comparing US to brits in that sense.
I doubt Italy ever used common law as that originated in Medieval England. It's civil law that descents from Roman law (specifically Justinian's codification of it). Since civil law is way more common around the world most countries have more in common with Rome than the US (or other Anglo countries) do.
You are right however that trying to portray the US as a modern 'Rome' is not a Trump thing but common American propaganda.
I may have been aware of the fact that that's sort of what I was trying to say, but I didn't have enough knowledge to distinguish "common law" from "civil law", despite having the ability to actually define common law as it is. I didn't have the term "civil law" is what I'm saying. Thank you for that. There was a gap in my knowledge and you patched (at least some of) it.
I wasn't specifically aware of when common law started. I looked it up just now, and apparently "in the courts of English kings in the centuries following the Norman conquest". So... perhaps it'd be more accurate to imply common law is Nordic as opposed to Roman? In a very indirect way.
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What Trump actually said, in his opening remarks during the press conference, was as follows: “The United States and Italy are bound together by a shared cultural and political heritage dating back thousands of years, to ancient Rome …”
Edit: Even after reading this quote twice, I can't really understand what Trump wanted to say.
Edit: Even after reading this quote twice, I can’t really understand what Trump wanted to say.
Can anyone ever?
It doesn’t matter if what he says makes sense or is true; if he says it confidently and double downs on it, people will be convinced (or be coerced to agree)
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And it's from 2019. Why was this even posted?
Because somewhere, someone's Trump rage boner was starting to wilt just a bit.
Alright, you might wanna sit down for this. Hate to be the one breaking it to you, buuut the Internet is not always a rational place...
So we can mentally prepare ourselves for Trump 2, the idiotening.
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He means they're both White countries.
America was founded on Roman ideals. I mean look at our capital building. Not only is it built in a Roman style there's literally a mural of the founding fathers consulting with Roman gods.
It may be false but it isn't any better.
Isn't it some white nationalist shit about real whites being descendent of Rome?
We're all the descendants of when Hercules impregnated every female trojan as part of his 13th labour. You can read all about it in my book "The Da Vinci Code: Die Harder"
he's talking about how fascists are obsessed with Rome and think they share white heritage or whatever
Wouldn't it be funny if we found out the native Americans and Romans had a long standing friendship, much like them and the Vikings and that's what he means.
Obviously he's just dribbling shit he thinks sounds smart, but it would be kinda funny.
I mean yeah, fascism.
So the thing he actually said is even dumber.
He said what he wanted to say. He's a fucking idiot that's got progressive dementia.
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He thinks he's complimenting them by linking them to the Roman Empire. Also he's probably completely forgotten that democracy was created by the Greeks.
Weird,
Trump already says a bunch of stupid shit on his own.
Not sure why someone would make the OP and make shit up.
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~~No one can be this stupid, surely?~~
the quote has been deliberately misrepresented
He actually said "The United States and Italy are bound together by a shared cultural and political heritage dating back thousands of years to Ancient Rome."
which could be inferred to be a reference to the large number of italian americans especially on the east coast and their effect on the US culture and the fact that much of the US political system is inspired by southern european governments. Ancient Rome had a senate too
Also that the Roman legislation principles is the foundation for all modern countries with a court, parlament and executive power. The American fumbling fathers even went so far as to copy many parts of it. Hence the name senate for instance. And much of the architecture was inspired or copied from Palladio. So you get that neoclassical look that is the hallmark of DC
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Not on Spain?
And he's still wrong.
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This makes sense. How else could the US take over the British airports during the revolutionary war without our history with Rome?
All airports fly to Rome
It ain’t a world war until Italy changes sides
Arguably Italy didn't change sides in WW2, they had a civil war that split it into fascist and not-fascist states.
It always boggles me how the hell he can even string a coherent sentence together
Can he?
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To be fair, Trump is quite very damn old.
Anyone have the clip?
Please, I need this
Edit: Did it myself, so he did say it, but the translator face was a different incident
Ancient rome: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htgnBODcB-I
Funny translator face: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7nSlWu0ICI
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