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[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 135 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That train will just keep coming. Once such a freight train is going you better get out of the way. The amount of kinetic energy that's coming towards you is dwarfing compared to a measly tank.

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

A train of 8000 tons at a velocity of 30 km/h roughly has the kinetic energy of 66.39 kg TNT.

Supposedly 100 kg TNT

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It seems to be a lot, how does it compare to an artillery shell? The tank doesn't look like it fared too badly.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Artillery shell with 1 kg of TNT has explosion energy of about 1 kg of TNT

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Do they actually use TNT as the explosive though? I thought TNT was just the igniter for something more powerful like C4 or something.

[–] warbond@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't think TNT is used at all, I'm pretty sure it's some explosive compound, as you said. However, explosives are still measured in terms of TNT, called Net Explosive Weight (NEW).

For example, one pound of C4 has a NEW of about 1.25 pounds.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Looks like it's something like 6-12kg of net explosive content so if that's the same as NEW then it seems that the train has it beat by a fair margin, though I doubt the trains impact is as tightly targeted.

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

~~I don't think your units make sense


kinetic energy has units of energy, but "kg TNT per second" is power (about 4MW). (I think just remove the "every second" and it's correct?)~~

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[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 113 points 4 days ago (2 children)

this sub doesn't exist on Lemmy :(
i miss r/bitchimatrain

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 60 points 4 days ago

Sounds like it's time to create it!

[–] Lemjukes@lemm.ee 45 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Be the change you want to see in the world! Don’t let your dreams be dreams!

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, but if you're gonna create it, you have to post to it like once a week or it'll just sit there dead, forever.

And who wants to find something to post once a week? Can't I just have Facebook feed it to me. Picture Zuck saying "here comes the plane!"

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[–] jve@lemmy.world 73 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Sorry for Reddit watermark… couldn’t quickly find it elsewhere.

[–] bpev@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

For your consideration, the Calvin and Hobbes Search Engine: https://michaelyingling.com/random/calvin_and_hobbes/

Edit to show example search for “freight train”: https://michaelyingling.com/random/calvin_and_hobbes/search.php?phrase=freight+train

I didn’t make this site, I just find it to be very useful for this extremely niche use case 🤣 Although, weirdly, it seems to be linking the wrong strip for this particular one. Dunno why, I’ve never seen it do that before.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 57 points 4 days ago (3 children)

that is literally the worst watermark I've ever seen in my entire time on the internet, more than a quarter century now.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why is there a Reddit watermark at all!? They didn't create the content, and I doubt Mr. Watterson would want it to be hosted there. Did a redditor go out of their way to slap that over the last panel? Like you said, the absolute worst...

I made this.jpg

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You've obviously not seen some of the footage coming out of Ukraine war. They watermark over the entire video

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

don't you know how much bank CNN made out of the gulf war? gotta protect the copyrights of war footage

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 56 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Here you go.

South Carolina in September. Low-slung trailer got stuck at the crossing and the driver skedaddled right before the impact. Also, ever so sadly, it doesn't officially count as a tank, only self-propelled artillery.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I expected more damage on the train. It really didn't give a fuck.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I think less and less damage to either side as armor and structural integrity increase is probably the norm with trains. For example non armor vehicles are turned into fun metal tangles. This 30 ton "lightly" armored vehicle looks pretty intact. A 70 ton tank might just remain more intact as the train shunts it to the side. The train might take more superstructure damage but there's a lot of just solid metal pushing in one direction. So I don't think any impact like that is ever going to actually just destroy the train.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago

The armor is light, the vehicle isn't.

On the other hand, a pair of locomotives can easily be over 400 tons, and that's not counting the rest of the train. Those doublestacked shipping containers on a well car can add 100 tons each.

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 45 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

Why don't we use trains on battlefields? (I see no issues with this plan)

[–] leisesprecher 65 points 4 days ago (3 children)

You could even wrap the tracks around the train so it can go wherever it wants!

[–] scoutFDT@lemm.ee 31 points 4 days ago (2 children)

That's just a tank with extra steps

[–] el_abuelo@programming.dev 14 points 4 days ago

No there are no steps. And even if there were the wraparound tracks would be able to go up them due to their circular nature.

[–] anzo@programming.dev 13 points 4 days ago

Make a lengthier tank? Like a centipede!!

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Cereal is actually a kind of soup.

And tanks are technically a type of train.

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[–] uis@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Russia and Ukraine do

[–] count_dongulus@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Considering tanks are transported by train, not surprising. Train big.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

And the train I am currently on was transported by truck.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Well that's an M109 Paladin. It weighs about half as much as an actual tank. But if it was fully loaded there's a pretty good chance nobody wins because it's an artillery system and it carries a lot of stuff that goes boom.

I don't care to speculate on who wins between a 70 ton tank and a train. It probably depends on what the train is pulling.

Edit to add - also we need pictures from different angles. From this angle it looks like the Paladin might have simply been de-tracked. But I'm pretty sure there's more damage as it's armor is actually comparatively light, rated for small arms and shrapnel.

[–] luciferofastora@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

So it's more self-propelled artillery?

[–] _bcron@midwest.social 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Technically yeah, colloquially no sane person would judge another for calling such a thing a tank

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

It's only a tank if it comes from the Tankeshire region of England, otherwise it's just sparkling armoured vehicle.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

That's exactly what it is.

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago (2 children)

🇺🇸This is America🇺🇸

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Attention dispatch... There has been a mass shooting at the site of the Tank Train collision, but thankfully all victims have successfully had their medical claims for woundcare denied. Time to go home...

Top Gun theme blares as the Police Mustang drives off into the sunset. And... scene.

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[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 23 points 4 days ago

This is for sure gta

[–] boywar3@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Isn't that a self-propelled artillery piece? I wanna say like an M109 or something

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[–] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

tank looks like missing parts of the bottom part, train is uhh 🥭

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Just skirts and detracted, the hull is probably intact but likely cracked enough it will need refurb at the factory. Also it probably fell off the train rather than ran into it.

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