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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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The pledge was born out of shareholder activism — and was withdrawn as regulators crack down on greenwashing.

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[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 87 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's almost like corporations are run by vacuous sociopathic immoral criminals, whose sole goal is the acquisition of wealth.

Regulations with teeth are a requirement for preventing corporate criminals from succeeding, and ensuring a level playing field, competition, and market success; otherwise the immoral and unethical have an inherent advantage, because crime pays and morality is expensive.

[–] mindlesscrollyparrot@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The scary thing here is that the pledges came out of shareholder activism. If the corporation will not do what the shareholders ask of it, then who is calling the shots?

We often hear that CEOs have no choice but to put profits ahead of morals because they are obliged to deliver profits to the shareholders. We can see here, that they're prepared to act against the wishes of the shareholders, so that excuse is clearly untrue.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

i been sick of that "a ceo's only responsibility to shareholders" line. just like i been sick of people saying in america that corporations are legally required to maximize profits for the shareholders. this lets greedy oligarch fucks off the hook for their evils by portraying it as inevitable.

before reagan, one of the primary functions of government was holding greedy fucks accountable. reagan introduced alignment. from him on, government has been run by and for greedy oligarchs who just want to make themselves rich, everyone else, including the shareholders, be damned. our last chance to start reversing that process through elections was probably in 2000 when we didn't elect gore. we've been doomed ever since to someone like the next president.

[–] Donk@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago

we did elect gore, he didn't have the heart to fight for it

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If the corporation will not do what the shareholders ask of it, then who is calling the shots?

Mutual fund managers, especially of the big index funds at Vanguard, Blackrock, Schwab, Fidelity, etc. They get to vote all the shares of the working-class investors whose 401(k)s are invested in those funds, and I'm pretty sure they always vote for whatever management recommends as a matter of policy.

In other words, the thing that's supposed to be a check & balance against management fuckery... isn't.

[–] michael_palmer@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Fuck Coca-cola. All my homies drink Kofola (from deposit glass bottles).

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 week ago

Kofola is the GOAT.

You guys need to export that shit more, Czechia would conquer the world

[–] errer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Coca Cola uses deposit glass bottles in much of the world, aside from the US. This country just dum.

[–] michael_palmer@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 week ago

I have only seen 250/330 ml bottles of Coca-Cola. And for some reason they are not sold in regular supermarkets. You can only buy them in METRO or in restaurants.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

aside from the US

and europe.

And we were into even the nineties. It was sorta hard to find but I was definitely still able to get it in 91. Im more of a pepsi person but I would buy coke because I could still get the tall bottles. They still have the short from glass around but not on a deposit basis.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ban plastic bottle packaging. Nothing short of that is going to stop plastic waste. We have metal and glass. We can reuse and recycle those materials fairly easily.

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I never understood the switch from glass in the first place.

[–] Johanno 7 points 1 week ago

Costs. Plastic is a lot cheaper than glass.

[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)