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When I was a union rep there would be people that would bitch about the $70 bucks a month or whatever the dues were. I would explain that without the union their pay would be far, far less (not even bringing up the benefits of work hours, vacation days and whatnot). Like the "all taxes are theft" morons, the words often fell on deaf and willfully ignorant ears.
They probably have no idea what the Homestead Strike was.
I hate paying 10 dollars to get 25 dollars. The worst.
Because these people don't see the bigger picture. They see they could get $35 if they didn't have to pay the union. What they don't see is that the union is the reason they're "getting" $35 and without the union they're definitely not going to get $35. And obviously any non-monetary benefit (such as more days off) goes way over their heads.
It's not even just about money, and anyone who's worked a union job will tell you that. Many of the benefits of unions aren't completely measurable (e.g. correcting the balance of power in favor of workers, even if just a tiny bit).
Even if it wasn't a bot, why is she mad at unions when she's barely scraping by? Unions would help her with that
Union payments in Iceland are like $20 per month. I'm pretty sure union workers get at least 20 cents more per hour than non union workers to break even.
union busting tactics in the us are basically on toddler level. remember the pamphlet that was sent out to united airlines workers when they were unionising? "union dues are $600 a year. why not spend that money on a new videogame system instead?"
That'd still be a bargain. Many unions in Iceland pay 75% of psychological help, glasses and exercise subscriptions by doing some collective bargaining magic. They also provide "time shares" type of vacation bungalows and more.
All on top of higher salaries, better working hours and working conditions and will provide legal assistance in case of wage theft which my sister had to use one time.
Basically a quality of life upgrade that pays you money even though it may not say so on the pay slip.
In the US standard is 2.5 hrs/month. I can't say for certain I made that back cash, but by the time benefits and job security were added i more than made it up
If you are asking for the arguments to make sense if you think about it for longer than 3 seconds, then you are asking too much.
This should be illegal to the point that whoever is responsible for this tweet should be jailed for st least 5 years.
If Amazon paid someone/company to do this, then it definitely is illegal. But likely no jail for anyone, just minor fines chocked up to the "cost of doing business"
Except the king of disinformation bought Twitter. And “we” not only keep using it en masse, but basically elected him as president.
I dunno about the rest of the world, but the US is way past the event horizon, and the chance of ever arresting people like this is less than zero.
This whole election is nuts. RFK Jr. is gonna gut the FDA and NIH so they have to outsource more and draw more lawsuits which will feed his own stupid advocacy firm, or he'll switch his company over to consulting and score millions more by outsourcing the FDA to his own workers. And Elon is obviously going to benefit himself. And Trump is gonna wreak havoc on the economy in the long run with his tariffs if he's being serious, and his border policies are a disaster... this isn't going to go well.
You'll get a lot more salary with Unions...
As a Single Mother With Two Children I am afraid that the Union will be bad, aktuly. Are you disagreeing with me? You simply don't understand what its like to be a Single Mother With Two Children. Why are you attacking me? I am a simple Single Mother With Two Children who is too weak and tired to argue with you.
As a Single Mother With Two Children I am just asking questions about why the Union is bad and now you, a big Pro-Union Thug, are hurting me and my Two Children who are very small and vulnerable.
Stop! Please! Help! The Union is Hurting Me! It's just as I anticipated!
Hey now, yer fancy pants logic ain't wahlcome round these parts. - Muricuh
I was part of a union. I got paid minum wage. My manager was the union rep. I had to work a role that I was literally allergic to.
Despite this, I'm still pro-union. Just not that particular union.
My manager was the union rep
I'm like 80% certain that's illegal basically everywhere innit? Conflict of interest
This person may be a higher up at Amazon, knowing that unions will diminish her bonuses (salary) because the workers underneath her are making more and no quotas are being met.
This is no excuse though
This was from the amazon beef with Bernie sanders back in like 2019. Amazon created a bunch of these fake accounts only to be called out for it later.
https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/2021/mar/30/amazon-twitter-defenders-fake-accounts
I doubt any higher up is "barely scraping by". And as another comment brought up the recipes, this is most definitely a bot.
could have been real because of some "ambassador" scheme they had where they'd hook a select few warehouse workers with social media handles to spread the propaganda
which only makes it more creepy if you ask me.
Also a lie in lots of places.
I've always wondered, what prevents creating a corporation to hire every worker possible, makes them proportional owners, and then negotiates wages and benefits on their behalf?
One enormous corporation that has all of the benefits of a union.
So a co-op?
Like Mondragon?
Not the exact same thing, but is a step in moving society that way, but read up on Germany's co-determination laws.
Does she know it's (usually) voluntary?
But that's not true. It depends if you live in a "right-to-work" state. Currently there are 26 of them, mostly red states. I would assume that, by population, the majority of Americans do not live in "right-to-work" states.
She doesn’t exist. Profile picture is AI generated from https://www.thispersondoesnotexist.com/
The person who wrote the xit surely knows how unions work.
That's such a laughably bad "unions bad" take. If there was such a thing as a kind of insurance where they fight to keep you employed, people would probably sign up and pay the fees.
You earn more when a union fight for higher wages, union dues are negligible
Mine are $30/month but I make $10/hour more than the non-union crews.
The anti-union Americans have a vacuum between their ears and enjoy 3rd World working conditions. F-them.
that’s why education in the topic matters. So the roomtemp mf have the info before the business gets to feed them desinfo (or before they try to think for themselves and come to wrong conclusions)
Unless you live in a "Right to Work" state, then you get to benefit from the work of unions without contributing any money to their efforts, much like a leech benefits from the blood production of the animal it attaches itself to.
What bothers me most about unions is the increased bargaining power labour gets when they work together. As a manager, my employer expects me to use every trick possible to pay those actually making the company run as little as possible and unions make it much harder to get my bonuses.
But I use one neat trick and pay the employees the money that then gets directed to running the union as a deduction from their paycheck and many of them don't even notice that the difference in overall take-home because of that increased bargaining power is higher than the union dues. They focus on the nickels and dimes and don't even notice the dollars!
And the fact that I need to meet certain criteria before I can fire them due to the union contact doesn't even show up on the paycheck--they often don't even think about it until it's too late!
I mean, they'll probably get you more than your dues cost, by a lot... So, there's that...
I thought Lonnie was gonna get rid of the bots.
