I use Kaios , Another embedded linux
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Which phone?
We can't even get widespread adoption on workstations, what are the chances we'll ever get them on mobile?
It's all the same problems. There aren't nearly enough people using it for developers to spend their time developing compatible versions of their software, much less ones with a mobile-friendly interface.
Maybe they'll work with PWAs but those still suck.
There's a simple reason to change that: use it. Recommend it to your friends. And yet there are great Linux mobile OSes(as example Graphen OS.
I looked into this for myself but I was told a lot of what has already been said here and decided to go with a pixel + graphene OS .
I'm probably sticking with this type of setup until there's a proper Linux phone that can be easily used as a daily driver.
I think the key is patience. One day I think we'll have something that will be able to daily drive Linux that won't feel like you're using the alpha release of android.
I mean GrapheneOS is probably the most secure OS on the planet and also privacy friendly. Android is annoying sometimes but its pretty okay and the security standards are veeery high
Graphene also is way easier to use their google play sandbox then messing around with microg and shit on lineage. I'd love to see the sandbox stuff ported to lineage or similar but I imagine its pretty baked into graphene. Since I care a little about privacy but also just want my phone to be rooted so I can do whatever I want with it. Oh well maybe someday.
You can root GrapheneOS, no problem. Its just not as secure anymore and the bootloader cant be locked, banking apps will not work anymore, Android Attestation, Safetynet etc
You can root GrapheneOS, no problem. Its just not as secure anymore and the bootloader cant be locked, banking apps will not work anymore, Android Attestation, Safetynet etc
True. That's why I chose graphene in the end. Ib liked the idea of the multiple user profiles to sandbox certain activities to a disposable profile and the fact that if I need Google play I can sandbox that as well by running it as a regular system app on it's own profile..
So far it's been pretty good. I think my only complaint is I can't get my Chromecast devices to connect. I got my Google TV to connect but all Chromecast devices refuse to pair for some reason but that pales in comparison to the headaches I'd get trying to daily drive a Linux phone. But I'm big on Linux (I use it as a daily driver on my computer) so I'm patiently waiting for a daily driver worthy Linux phone. 🤞
Things are going in the right directions, somewhere.
- immutable Systems
- security optimized, permission models etc
- TPM encryption
- HEADS Bios with hardware key as storage
But its far from the security of a Google Pixel with GrapheneOS.
Me, GrapheneOS!
No jokes, I found a Oneplus 3 with broken Display, will fix that and try some distros. But the choices all seem pretty bad tbh, I would like Fedora Silverblue but I guess that doesnt exist... yet.
Maybe I will try to create a custom Ublue image?
I used a pinephone as my daily driver for about a month. Importantly, this was 3~4 years ago, things could be better now.
My take at the time: The battery life was bad, the phone was slow, MMS did not work, making a receiving calls was iffy at best.
I really really hope this improves/has improved over time. Android gets more and more difficult to de-google. A linux phone would solve a lot of privacy issues (not all, but some)
It sucks that GrapheneOS supports only Pixels and nobody came along and ported it to other devices, although less secure.
But "Android gets harder to degoogle" is not true. Pixels are just way too expensive
Pixels are just way too expensive
LOL what? The A series are some of the cheapest modern phones you can buy, and an incredible value...
Yup then that is pretty messed up. I was used to phones not costing over 200€, maybe 300
The only phones that cost that much are either several years old (in which case you can include used Pixels) or are riddled with bloatware and spyware and the absolute cheapest of materials that won't last long enough to make buying it even make any financial sense.
Nokia 7plus back then. Great hardware, nice materials. Still working great but nearly no software updates. An indian guy develops LineageOS for Nokia phones though