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[–] Talaraine@fedia.io 148 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Literally on the heels of the revelation that China is spying on all chats and phone calls, these clowns still think back doors are safe in any way.

I swear, humanity is simply failing the IQ test here.

Google "TSA-Approved Locks"

This is the same stupid thing, but digital.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 112 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What we need are laws to prevent this kind of court trolling because courts all over europe are wasting time and money on these repeated proposals. Politicians should be held accountable for wasting everyone's time.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 22 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

In the US somebody recently found a way to account powerful people.

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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 78 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)

If y'all wanna know why is this stupid

Take a look at the so-called "TSA-Approved Locks"

The locks that lets TSA have a "special key" to unlock your bags to search then without cutting it open.

The same "special key" is available to buy on amazon.

🤣

It's even worse than no locks, since someone could plant drugs in your bag using the "special key", and since there's no evidence of tampering, and the bag is also locked, the blame falls on you.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

For anyone else who's curious about the history I actually went and looked this up. Photos of the keys were accidentally leaked on the Travel Sentry website. This made it very easy to copy. The website says "Sensitive Information – do not post, copy or disseminate". Clearly someone elected to do the opposite.

[–] wurstgulasch3000@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Oh no you don't understand, with this legislation bad actors and foreign intelligence would not be allowed to use these back doors. So they can't do it because it's illegal. That's why it's 100% safe. I mean don't you trust the it competence of 60+ year old law makers?

OK I will stop now

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Do I seriously need to put always on cameras in my luggage?

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, thats why you don't use TSA locks. Use a normal lock, and when it gets broken, now you have plausible deniability.

[–] Adincar@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 weeks ago

I believe DeviantOllam recommends putting a gun in your bag (from memory a starter gun counts as a gun to TSA but doesn't have the whole licence restrictions of an actual firearm). Because you have a gun you are allowed to lock it with an actual padlock and the TSA can't just go through your stuff. If you put a padlock on otherwise they'll just cut it off and you're back to square one.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I just use a zip tie. It keeps the bag shut and it's obvious if they open it. Of course they could potentially replace it with an identical zip tie. You can get security seals that are serial numbered if you want to protect against that.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago

You can undo and reuse a zip tie by just lifting up the flap with a small object.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Good idea. And you could easily add a mark (maybe green permanent marker?) and they're most likely not going to replicate it. Prep a few and carry the zip ties in your personal item or something.

That said, zip ties seem kind of annoying since you'll need to cut them at the destination, without being able to being a knife with you.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 weeks ago

I put a cheap pair of wire cutters in the front pocket of the suitcase to cut the zip tie off with.

[–] kambusha@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

If your bag has an exposed zipper, then a malicious actor doesn't need to pick your lock, they can just get through the zipper with a pen usually, and they can still zip it up after.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpIJVWXsBBI

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I guess it could be better to not lock it at all and use some other form of tamper detection?

Or I guess I could just travel with a pelican case so they have to defeat the lock to get in.

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[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago

wow, a lock that decreases your security

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Even worse btw, you can 3d print the tsa master keys. I have them printed, and confirmed them working.

Tsa knows about this, and they have publicly said they dont care

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[–] iii@mander.xyz 46 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Context: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_to_Prevent_and_Combat_Child_Sexual_Abuse

How your representatives in EU parliament voted: https://mepwatch.eu/9/vote.html?v=134463&country=fr%7Cde

Looks like it's mostly german representatives that block it. They remember the stasi.

[–] Wrufieotnak 11 points 2 weeks ago

It was the one good thing the german liberal party FDP was good for, but they aimed to destroy the coalition from the inside (literally! they made plans and discussion meetings when the best time to destroy it would be). And now they are out and we have the SPD and the Greens left. So one party who really has a hard on for surveillance and the other one who is undecided.

[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

1000010988

In all seriousness, the EU has become beyond frustrating in so many ways... Kudos for fighting against corporate monoliths, but... c'moon!

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 34 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I don't think you get the EU. It's a democracy and everyone can submit proposals.

This is a proposal from pro-Russian Orban from Hungary, and not EU's opinion.

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[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Here we go again Good old Child abuse.

[–] Jackthelad@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Not when the UK is already a member of Five Eyes.

[–] Jackthelad@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Isn't that a burger restaurant?

[–] Morphit@feddit.uk 10 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, they're a burgers & spies joint.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not quite

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes

An Anglosphere intelligence alliance comprising Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States. These countries are party to the multilateral UK-USA Agreement, a treaty for joint cooperation in signals intelligence.

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[–] ambitiousslab@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

To answer seriously: unfortunately, the UK is one step ahead with the Online Safety Act. They've already given Ofcom the power to enforce client-side scanning. Ofcom themselves are deciding whether they want to use this power yet and this should happen sometime next year.

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[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (19 children)

You shouldn't be using whatsapp anyway.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago

First they came for whatsapp. I didn't say anything because I don't use whattsapp.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 12 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

It would concern all messaging apps, which is beyond stupid. Lol, even nato uses the matrix protocol.

[–] randombullet@programming.dev 4 points 2 weeks ago

Lots of defense uses XMPP as well

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Look, it was discussed for years already and we have a consensus; it's technically and legally not possible without giving you the keys (methaphorically and literally) and we can't give you the keys because that would quickly lead to you abusing the power given to you.

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 8 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I actually don’t really understand how they would do this. Isn’t WhatsApp end to end by protocol? They’d have to share messages at the client side. What a mess.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

They want to force WhatsApp to scan your private messages on your device.

[–] rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

End-to-end encryption is worthless, when it's done by a company like meta in a closed source project.

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 4 points 2 weeks ago

If you own the client, you own the message, agreed.

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[–] Teknikal@eviltoast.org 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I use signal but I always kind of wanted to switch people to threema but in reality it's hard enough getting them to install signal.

[–] MaggiWuerze 6 points 2 weeks ago

Threema really doesn't do a good job of making it easy to switch. For the regular user there is too much that can go wrong and its too easy to lose your chats when migrating to a new phone

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago

And its fucking back again

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