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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 130 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

I've always found it slightly funny that nuclear power is technically just a fancy steam engine.

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 119 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Almost all power source that generate electricity are fancy steam engines.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 50 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Wait, it's all steam engines?

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 64 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

🔫 👩‍🚀🔫👩‍🚀 always has been

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Never got this meme honestly, I should figure it out sometime 🔫🧑‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What?!? It was always just a meme?!?

I thought it was a reference I didn’t get because I’m an old.

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[–] Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 33 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Hydro, wind, solar, and wave/tide energy capture are not.

The crazy part is photovoltaics are the only power source that doesn't spin something to make electricity. Truly an outlier.

[–] vaionko@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

solar

Except the ones that are. (Concentrated solar power)

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[–] A7thStone@lemmy.world 45 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Hydro is the most fancy steam engine since it waits for the water to recondense to make power.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Has anyone tried using cold steam yet?

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[–] LostXOR@fedia.io 28 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Photovoltaics have left the chat.

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[–] ngn@lemmy.ml 84 points 2 weeks ago (20 children)
[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

It was a bad call to stop, but now it's an equally or worse call to start again.

Renewables win on essentially every measure and get better every day while nuclear gets worse every day.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

how is it getting worse? there are tons of modern fail-safes

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago

It's getting more expensive year over year, while renewables are plummeting in price.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 62 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Conveniently leaves the "get the fissile material" and "store the used fissile material" steps out.

[–] storcholus 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] spechter@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 59 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Run low on water, stop reaction. Fission products keep getting hot even though reaction stopped. Not enough water to cool them off. Shit.

[–] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 41 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That’s why you have a closed water system and multiple failsaves.

Unless you want to cyka your last blyat.

[–] dufkm@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What do I need to roll to pass the failsaves?

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[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thorium Thorium Thorium Thorium Thorium

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[–] Kaelygon@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)

thankfully modern ones like molten salt reactors have passive safety, where they stop the reaction if overheating occurs.
edit: My mistake, there's no active commercial molten salt reactors.
But nuclear power is very safe nowadays because of the multiple fail-safes, which some can still be passive like emergency cooling.
I much rather get electricity from magic rocks than destroying rain forest in developing countries drilling oil, gas or mining coal.
The biggest risk in nuclear is environmental disasters like in Fukushima's case, which is the last significant nuclear incident in past 13 years

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

And are those modern molten salt reactors in the room with us now?

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[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the passive safety of the molten salt spontaneously catching on fire when in contact with air and can't be put out with water.

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[–] Skepticpunk@lemmy.world 45 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

Same applies to geothermal.

lava is really hot

use lava to boil water

use steam to turn a generator

free electricity!

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Chat is this legit gameplay or an exploit?

[–] DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Trolls and exploiters at it again. If god intended for us to make nuclear energy then he would've made it appear in nature. Stupid scientists making stuff from gods creation.

[–] PixeIOrange@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Is just trolling.

[–] burgermeister@lemm.ee 29 points 2 weeks ago

I love these, there's no way that would ever work

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

free

The only completed attempt in last 25 years in US (Vogtle), cost over $15/watt. Before fuel, operations, security, waste disposal plan, and no insurance.

Turnkey (containers full of batteries) systems in China are under $100/kwh. A possible imported cost of $100/kwh.

5gw of solar and 19gwh batteries would have higher capacity factor than nuclear, use same transmission infrastructure size, and cost $7/watt. Where winter production is not enough to fill batteries, the batteries can still be charged by wind or peaker plants that can run a bit more efficiently for a continuous time over a day instead of in bursts.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

TBF 90% of the cost of nuclear in the US is political resistance. Not engry meeting

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[–] sirico@feddit.uk 12 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

EZ It's not rocket science

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

i'm willing to have fizzle reactors on the moon. and mars. but i am not willing to shoot the fizzle materials via rockets to the moon or mars because of rockets tendency to blow up when designed and built by the humans.

i want no earth fizzle.

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