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I used to get really uncharacteristically angry like this when I biked to work on a particularly bad road. I would almost get hit all the time. It felt like I was in a battle.
I eventually dealt with it by taking a longer route to work that went out of the way to avoid that road. Not saying that's a great solution but it's what I had to do.
In Illinois pedestrians always have the right of way. Even if they're fucking stupid, like walking along the median at night in dark clothes.
If you're going walking at night, I'd advise:
You can't escape the need for cars, especially in America outside of urban areas, so you just need to be careful. And remember everybody - you, me, and Joe down the street, EVERYBODY, every single human alive - is a fucking idiot. It's just a matter of degrees, subject matter, and self awareness.
In Tajikstan they don't have cars yet but if you get hit by a donkey then you're entitled to three sheep compensation
I saw a cop actually pull someone over for making a left turn while someone was crossing the street and they didn't leave much room between the person, it is the law in my area that pedestrians are to be fully clear of the crossing before a car can go. It is so rarely enforced that I was irrationally happy to see them pulled over for it. Part of this may be because its a crossing I use weekly to get to a grocery store.
I'm glad you are safe, if your city doesn't have similar laws recomend them as well as other measures to your local politicians. Some of our intersections give pedestrians a head start before cars to put the pedestrians in the crosswalk before the light turns green to help increase visibility, your intersections might be able to have a similar feature with very little additional costs.
Close to my home, there is a crossing without traffic lights next to the bus stop I get off at. I can't count the number of times a car, or even more frequently a motorbike, coming from the right (which means I am in the middle of the crossing) sped up in order to be able to go through in front of me. And of course, most of the time they end up having to hard break in order to not run me over, and they still manage to complain (and most of the time while honking) that I am crossing at a crossing.
"Did you just hit my car?"
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"Do I look like fucking Ironman?"
One of my colleagues almost got hit recently, apparently he was crossing a pedestrian crossing, a woman was speeding up. He just had time to jump to the side! The woman was accompanied by a young woman (probably the one who alerted the driver) , they stopped and asked him "are you okay?!" after the driver told him she was sorry, that she hadn't seen him -_-...
He told me that he had the reflex to jump, what would have happened with a child?
The interesting side of this story is that my colleague owns an (fucking) SUV...
SUVs are the most dangerous vehicles.
I've had cars hit several times by SUVs reversing (in fairness, most were well before backup cameras became standard). "I didn't see you." Yeah, no shit.
The most recent one was in broad daylight, they backed into my red car. How do you miss a red car in daylight? I also noted that the car is as tall as the average 10 year old, so if my car is in danger, then so are children.
Logical conclusion: SUVs are unsafe to back up, so they shouldn't have reverse.
I said this at lunch one day to a group of friends, and one of the SUV-driving friends got offended. A few months later her SUV was in the shop for repairs after she ...backed into some trash cans she couldn't see. And hers was one of the smaller ones, like a RAV4 or something.
I think a good rule here is, "If I could reach your car, you were way too close." I like to drum on the hoods of cars stopped halfway into the crosswalk at traffic lights too. No one has actually spoken to me the few times I've done it, just confused and/or angry looks depending on the MSRP of the vehicle.
I kick cars if they get too close.... Same logic. If you're close enough to kick, you were close enough to kill me.
It's self defense at that point
No, but I have actually been hit. Waited at the crosswalk for the light, looked before crossing, made it halfway across the three lane, one way road before some idiot turned (illegally into the middle lane) and hit me.
This is not very Buddhist of me, but I wish she could know that she gave me a concussion, permanently injured my knee, broke my nose, and ruined my credit because I had no health insurance, while all she got was a $67 traffic ticket. She even tried to fight it at court, saying that she shouldn't be held liable because she "didn't see [me]". I was wearing a bright orange shirt on a sunny day.
I will remember her name for the rest of my life.
Edit: I just googled her name (it's very unique) and it looks like she was let go from the Air Force after she was found guilty of running me over and her career suffered for a few years. So that's nice. But now she's working for the VA. Fuck that. I probably won't ever tell her what she did, but we'll see.
That sucks. Was she not liable for your healthcare if she was at fault? (I'm European, no idea how you guys do it.)
On two occasions I've actually punched a car in a drive by. Once when I was crossing a zebra and a car just drove by with zero fuck given. I saw the car, jumped back and kicked the door, leaving a good mark. Driver got scared thinking he or she hit me and took off immediately.
The other time I was on a bike, going downhill straight on a crossing where I had the right of way. A big van makes a left turn right in front of me. I went full in the brakes, lifting y rear wheel up, and managed not to crash into him, but close enough to be able to punch the rear door with my fist. This one too took off immediately.
Fuck these assholes
I don't have much to say besides I'm glad you're safe.
I've had a few near misses like that. I try not to lose my temper but sometimes the sweet release of calling a driver in the wrong a basic dickhead is too appealing.
It'd depend on their reaction. I'm happy to say they're apologetic more often than not. If they were clearly on their phone I'd probably cuss them out anyway.
E: I get maybe irrationally annoyed when they don't use their indicators though.
That's not irrational. That's rational anger. It's normal to get angry at others for not holding up their end of societys agreed upon rules.
Seinfeld made an entire show based off the concept of "character does something wrong, 4 main characters react to it, audience relates to how annoying that person is".
I feel validated by this response 😊
Thanks, yeah I think most people, drivers or not, are decent people, but driving is stressful and that changes them. I regret hitting the car now I think about it, I wonder if they would have said sorry or just drove away.
I understand the regret but I kind of feel like a person's fight or flight response would be pretty strong in a situation like that.
If they realised they nearly hit you, I'm sure they'd come to understand why you did that. Here's hoping empathy prevails.
“Don’t need to use that kind of language? Be glad I’m using my words at all you miserable sack of shit!”
I stare at them and yell "Fuck you".
In that situation I would have yelled "You murderous piece of fucking shit. Stop driving a car. Fuck you."
I really don't care for people that think being calm in situations like this is the right choice. You almost fucking died, or worse, had to spend the rest of your life in a wheel chair while the driver has their wages garnished to pay for it; also for the rest of their lives. Swearing at them and cussing them out is the only way to get through to the bastards, if you're lucky. Otherwise they'll just forget that they almost killed someone a few minutes later.
I just straight up got hit crossing a crosswalk in Auckland, NZ. Did a full flip in the air, lost my glasses, and spider webbed most of the kid's windshield with my head. I didn't have to be angry. He took me back to his Mother's to get me an ice pack, and she did all the work for me. I spent a few days picking shards of glass out of my neck, though.
Ironically, the previous week, another NZ kid rear-ended the car I had bought two hours prior, totalling it. That was the end of my car travel in New Zealand.
Is there no health care in NZ? Why didn't you go to a doctor for the shards in your neck?
I was visiting from the states, but I was on my way to a Psychiatrist appointment to get an adderall prescription when I got hit. I just checked with her to see if I was concussed.
She said that I talked kinda funny, but it was just because I was an American.
Also, the safety glass lodged in my neck was just tiny shards and at superficial depths. The only real damage I took was a torn Dickies shirt, which is wild given the damage I did to the car. Does that mean I have an auto immune disorder?
Try being homeless in a major city.
When you live on the street, you are never away from idiotic, distracted, drunk, high, pissed off drivers.
Encounters like what you describe become something that happens every few days, even multiple times a day.
You're extremely lucky if none of them hit you.
You come to hate them.
How dare your existence inconvenience them, even though you are using a crosswalk or crossing legally.
You come to view them as basically natural predators.
No thank you
Here in Seattle, it makes the news every time someone is hit by a car. Most of the time, it's homeless people walking across the highway. Don't camp on the highway, people.
No, it absolutely does not.
I was homeless in Seattle for over a year.
And practically nobody camps on the highway, if you mean I5. They camp under it.
If you mean Aurora / Highway 99... sure, lots of people camp right on the sidewalk because its not really a highway within Seattle city limits.
But anyway, yeah, I personally knew a lot of other homeless people that got hit by cars, no media kerfuffle over them.
If you get hit and run, which happens all the time, and you can limp away, basically never gets reported compared to how often that happens.
Your reaction makes perfect sense. Been there too many times. It's completely insane that some people feel their car's integrity is somehow equal or more important than the integrity if your body. I'd only keep my mouth shut if I lived in a country / area where guns are prevalent. You don't know whether the psychopath is armed and crazy or not. In either case, I might simply confront them with:
"No, I did not hit your car, you hit me with your car. What's your name and insurance policy? I might need those if the pain gets worse and I need medical attention?"
If you are armed you are supposed to pull your piece out and shoot them in the face. Their driving behaviour poses a life-threatening danger to you. You are self-defensing.
IANAL, though, but I really wish what I said is true.
I can't say I remember this ever happening to me with a car (regularly with e-scooters and bicycles, which isn't as bad and also besides the point). You know why I think that is? They actually enforce traffic rules over here. Get caught almost killing a pedestrian, and you can be pretty sure you'll lose your license. There's speed cameras and random speed checks everywhere too. Slightly too fast is expensive, clearly too fast makes you lose your license (either immediately or eventually, depending on severity), and driving obscenely fast will make you also lose your car. Not all drivers have their own sense of accountability, so it's critical that we force them to have one.
Where is that? Here in the UK, whilst nowhere near as bad as the US, the sentences drivers get for even intentionally running someone over are laughable.
I live kinda half-half in Austria and Switzerland