Klitschko v Rogan is a celebrity fight I'd actually like to see.
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Broprah says what he’s paid to say. Noting more, nothing less. The guy is a spineless coward- nothing less.
Broprah, that's good 😂
Like my dad taught me, give bullies everything they want all the time so they don't take stuff or hurt you.
“I listen to your latest podcast,” said Klitschko, whose brother Vitali Klitschko was also a world champion boxer and is now mayor of Kyiv.
“I’m sending you this video to let you know that I disagree. You talk about these American weapons being sent to Ukraine, which you believe will lead to the third world war. So let me tell you that you’re repeating Russian propaganda.”
. . . Rogan said Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was “100% wrong” but remarked of the Ukrainian president: “[Volodymyr] Zelenskyy says Putin is terrified. Fuck you, man. You fucking people are about to start world war three.”
He added: “The whole thing is a proxy war … it is fucking insane.”
Putin has long claimed US assistance for Ukraine is part of a proxy war aimed at weakening Russia.
“Putin’s Russia is in trouble, so they want to scare you and people like you,” Klitschko said in his message to Rogan. “His war was supposed to last three days. It has lasted three years thanks to the heroism and sacrifice of us Ukrainians. So you’re using the only weapon that Putin really intends to use, propaganda, and this weapon really weakens our democracies.
“Putin’s Russia wants to destroy Ukraine quietly. They want America to stay quiet. Not great, but quiet. A great America is not an America that abandons countries that defend freedom with their lives.
“In short, you see, I have quite a few points of difference. If you invite me on your podcast, we could discuss them like free men.”
Brilliant. But someone get him a fediverse account please. It's crazy this is on Xitter.
I hate America being world police but we are supposed to ally with democracy. That’s the whole reason we didn’t defend the government of France against the people of France.
I can only imagine how many bots are in the replies of that one
Klitschko should invite Rogan into a boxing ring.
I have watched Klitschko in the ring at Madison Square Garden. He's a modern day Heracles. Insane upper body strength.
I have recently been trying to enlighten my Joe Rogan loving relative as to his (what I would consider, clear) political leanings and tendency to spew propaganda. "I'm just asking questions" is one of the most powerful propaganda tactics, since it can be used to relatively quickly normalize any topic.
As one might expect, the conversations haven't gone well. People who listen to Joe Rogan tend to think they are well informed by virtue of listening to Joe Rogan.
I think collectively we need to start referring to him only as "the former host of Fear Factor" to really drive home exactly who it is these people are idolizing.
I watched a lot of early Rogan.. And even though he was an idiot, there were so many wonderful conversations with interesting people.
Then came the likes of Jocko Willink, and slowly you saw more right wing people creep into his orbit. The early Peterson was even fun to listen to and said some good stuff.. but the conversation became more political, more right wing and in my opinion less interesting... Just regurgitation of right wing talking points. Once Rogan was in talks with Spotify.. there was nothing interesting left. Rogan probably got info from Spotify on demographics, targeting, subjects that do best and decided a 100 million was enough to sell gis soul. Then by constantly being in the same room with the ghouls and smelling their farts.. they managed to convince him the farts smelled nice.
Nothing to add here, except that I also watched early Rogan. Totally agree that there was a significant shift.
former host of Fear Factor
That's like the most respectable job he has had so far
I've said it before, but he was good in Fear Factor. I don't like Rogan, but it's like this man was born to convince aspiring actors and models to eat maggoty cheese or sort tarantulas with their mouths.
"C'mon, man. I know you want that key!!! Get in there!!! Pick up those spiders. You've only got seven and you need at least nine to beat Brock. The clock is counting!!!"
I now see Rogan as our generations Rush Limbaugh. He fell so far, I used to enjoy listening to his podcast and now he's just a rich, bitter, insular propaganda mouthpiece.
Yea he had some great guests and it was interesting, now it's Alex jones and right wing shit wagons... it's really fucked.
But with these comments from him, he can go fuck his self. He's repeating russian propaganda. Fuck him and fuck russia.
Slava Ukraini
Yes, he fell so far. All the way from game show host.
He went from supporting Bernie Sanders to being a fascist bootlicker of the most anti-worker administration ever.
I wouldn't do what Rogan has done as a response but I don't blame people for being disillusioned with the way Bernie was treated either. All the bad stuff people say about Trump is true but he wasn't the one that did everything in his power to prevent a progressive with grassroots support from getting the nomination to run for president. That was all the DNC. They shouldn't be surprised to see backlash to that kind of treatment. Obviously it would have been much better for everyone if that backlash had occurred when Republicans were running a relatively sane candidate but here we are.
Yea Rogan and a good amount of Trump-supporters don't care about his policies, he's just a vessel for them to wreck the system so it can be built anew, without fptp-voting and with laws applied equally. Many of them expect a civil war because they're revolutionaries but since that word is associated with the radical left they don't actually use it, they just prep and vote for whatever nutjobs the current system enables to exist, in their minds bringing them closer to eating the rich and "fixing" the system, king or no king.
Crazy that he once had Bernie Sanders on his show and sat there agreeing with him on so many things. I think he also had Andrew Yang on it and nodded his head most of the way through it. I wonder what it was that made him turn to the dark side. For Musk, it was his child transitioning, but for Rogan? No idea...
It wasn't just Elon's daughter transitioning, Claire dating Chelsea Manning is something else the man child can't handle.
A few purple haired girlies were mean to him on twitter
Joe Rogan can eat a dick
The episode of Fear Factor he was always meant for.
Bless this guys heart, but after the Dibble affair it is clear there is no point debating insane positions in front of an insane audience.
If Rogan accepts him on his show, I'll actually gain a touch of respect for him.
In my eyes it is the opposite.
Klitschko is a heavy weight world champion, Rogan should be excited to have him.
If he ignores it, it will be a clear signal that he isn't independent as he claims to be, but also gets paid to spread Russian propaganda.
I don't see how one would reject such guest unless the goal is spreading disinformation.
Yeah, especially since Rogan is supposedly a sports fan himself.
He is not paid by the Russian propaganda. He is honest in his beliefs.
He is a prime example of a person that is not a bad person per se, but just too dumb to understand the complexities and chaotic nature of the world. So they invent shortcuts in their brain, the same kind right wing demagogues are pushing. It is inevitable that he becomes a right wing propagandist.
What makes you so sure he is not involved directly with Russian propaganda?
He could be compromised which is something Russia is known for.
Just because he has hundreds of millions doesn't mean he doesn't want billions either. This is a high stakes game like never before.