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[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 27 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (6 children)

I'm no Apple fanboy (never owned a product of theirs and never will) but to be fair, those two USB-C ports can do everything the old, removed ports can do and more. The real crime here is not putting enough of them on the laptop.

Edit: The only port I'll lament the removal of is the headphone jack. USB-C headphones are rare, adapters get lost, and bluetooth headphones compress the audio and have input lag. Everything else can go, though, and won't be missed. (Okay fine ethernet can stay too.)

[–] thatsnothowyoudoit@lemmy.ca 3 points 59 minutes ago* (last edited 56 minutes ago) (1 children)

Apple’s MacBook Pro includes HDMI and a third usb/Thunderbolt port alongside an SDXC and headphone jack (the latter of which is on all their laptops albeit on the other side). This seems like the perfect balance for most users.

It’s nonsense they don’t include HDMI on the Air, but then “it’s kinda thin and kinda light”.

I was not sad to see FireWire and mini-DisplayPort replaced with usb-c/thunderbolt.

Current port line up on “pro” machines:

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 1 points 54 minutes ago

Add 3-4 more USB-C/Thunderbolt ports and that is a perfectly adequate setup (especially since one will be taken up by the charging cable if you don't have a dock, and even then I could get by). I'm actually impressed that there are so many ports on it...for an Apple laptop.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 1 points 28 minutes ago (1 children)

Can USBC be used for audio if headphones start using a USBC plug?

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 1 points 6 minutes ago

Yes, and it works with every pair of headphones. Like I said, all you need is an adapter. It isn't difficult to cut and splice some wires to make your own USB-C headphones, either.

[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 1 points 34 minutes ago* (last edited 33 minutes ago) (1 children)

to be fair, those two USB-C ports can do everything the old, removed ports can do and more

To connect to a device that's 100 meters away at an appreciable speed (and beyond that at lesser quality), one still kind of needs Ethernet. Can be accomplished with an adapter, though.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 2 points 32 minutes ago (1 children)
[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 1 points 18 minutes ago

Nope, I think I must have written my reply while it hadn't propagated here.

[–] Buckshot@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

My work laptop is a dell xps and it's the same, 3 USB c and that's it. One gets used for charging. It came with a c to HDMI and A adapter. Basically forces you to need a dock at the desk and carry a bunch of adapters for anywhere else. Even just 1 type A for the mouse receiver would be nice because logitech still don't make type C receivers.

[–] horse 1 points 1 hour ago

There's a headphone jack on the other side. I don't think Apple make a computer without a headphone jack. Most models have more than two USB-C ports as well and all current models have a dedicated "Magsafe" charging port.

[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

what about hdmi?
like i get it, displays work ovee typec. but most monitors you're gonna find in the wild still use hdmi and being able to just plug your laptop in is a godsent

[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 1 points 59 minutes ago

The new MacBook pros do have a HDMI port.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 28 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

They remove the extra ports because they take up space in the board.

That aside if you’re buying Mac you took it from yourself. No one made you buy it.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 11 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Tim Cook came to my home and put a gun to my head until I bought an iPad. :(

[–] NeoToasty@kbin.melroy.org 14 points 2 hours ago

Problem: This is what happens when you pick Apple.

[–] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 hour ago

I actually prefer the standardization here. Sick of having 2 boxes of different cords.

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

And look how much thinner. A large part of that is the need for physical ports which although they may loom small on the outside, also take up space inside for the boards that convert signals. Now those conversions happen in the dongles if needed.

The real problem is that USB didn't implement a hub standard so most hubs have had to use old hub standards and just have a single USB-C connector and the rest USB-A, hdmi, etc. There haven't been many purely USB-C to USB-C hubs to allow for connecting lots of USB-C devices to a single port and usually they end up losing features or splitting bandwidth instead of sharing the full bandwidth.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Just one port to rule them all

[–] xenspidey@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Not Lenovo, my ThinkPad P1 has lots of nice ports

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I have a ThinkPad idk which one and I only have 2 usb ports which is a bit annoying tbh. At least I still have hdmi and usb-c for charging

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