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Square image with a dark background, with an illustration of a multi-stage rocket depicted horizontally in the center. Above the rocket, white text reads, "the moon landing was staged?" Below the rocket, more white text reads "yeah that's how all orbital rockets fucking work dude"

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[–] vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 60 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Even SSTO has the single stage. To orbit.

Me, coming to the comments about to ask "what about SSTO?"

[–] EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 4 months ago (8 children)

I looked into this a long time ago, it would've been more expensive to fake it than it was to just do it.

We would've needed to somehow convince Russia to lie on our behalf. We would've needed to convince the dictatorship of australia to also lie on our behalf.

The rooskies came out and said we beat them to it, and the aussies claimed they recived the camera feed and the audio feed from space and then echoed it to their TV network

[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That Mitchell and Webb sketch where they discuss faking the moonlanding to save money, and the only real savings was on catering....

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

Just read your comment haha here it is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6MOnehCOUw

What a gem

[–] JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (5 children)

The dictatorship of Australia?

[–] Johanno 6 points 4 months ago

Shhh. We don't talk about that anymore.

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I too feel like I'm missing context on a joke here.

This was before the fateful Whitlam dismissal by the monarchy / potentially the CIA.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

By vice regal, not regal. It was the governor general that dismissed the Whitlam government, not the monarchy

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The palace papers revealed the royals knew and had discussed the possibility on a handful of occasions well before the sacking, even going so far as to discuss preemptively that the monarch would not wish to take the advice of the prime minister in replacing the governor general "If such an approach was made you may be sure that The Queen would take most unkindly to it" as written by her personal secretary.

Further, the vice regal is an extension of the regal. Nek minnit you're gonna say, oh the US president only ordered drone strikes, it was actually the drone operators who did the killing!

Monarchy being non-political my arse. And this isn't the only time the royals have been seen to favour the conservatives. No surprise there of course, there is no struggle other than the class struggle.

Fuck the Queen, fuck the monarchy, fuck the conservatives for withholding supply, and fuck the governor general.

(Not fuck you, though, even if you do like the royals)

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[–] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yes, exactly. In general the whole notion and everything they claim is fucking idiotic from start to finish. Outright lies, misunderstandings, misrepresented partial truths, etc.

Those two friends of mine aren't "gunpowder inventors" as we Finns tend to express it, ie. they're… well, calling them stupid would be a bit too harsh, but they're definitely not smart. I'm not surprised in the least that they fell down that rabbit hole, but fuck does it get tiring.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Right? It was the Cold fucking War, why would the Czar of Russia or whoever was in charge work with the US on the US' propaganda against Russia?

[–] oatscoop@midwest.social 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Cold fucking War

Czar of Russia

The Czar wasn't around during the Cold War for ... reasons.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

Plus you still need to launch a bunch of massive Saturn V rockets since so many people saw them launch. Unless they paid off everyone who said they were there? Building a moon rocket that doesn't go to the moon isn't that much cheaper than building one that does.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Landing on the moon was such a huge PR event. Everything that could be controlled was controlled.

What if a backup TV broadcast was created in case of broadcast equipment failure?

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ya, Russians are noobs tbh.

[–] sudo@programming.dev 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Objectively silly statement given the entire history of the space race.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Yeah they were kicking our teeth in for a while there.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 41 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Thanks to OP for reminding me to check my staging

[–] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 40 points 4 months ago (3 children)
[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 4 months ago

Jeb's just operating a unscheduled manned solar orbital satellite.

They'll be fine

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

It's just a little jaunt to Ike to grab a Kerbal for a contract. How hard could it be?

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

Kraken decided my Jeb gets a little interstellar travel as a treat, so he is traveling at incredible speed in a straight line directly away from such ideas as "back" or "alive"

[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 2 points 4 months ago

This guy kerbals

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 28 points 4 months ago

I still prescribe to the theory that we tried to fake the moon landing, but Stanley Kubrick being a perfectionist kept insisting they shoot on location prompting us to do it for real anyway.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The moon landing wasn't staged, the launch was...

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

The lander did have a stage separation though, It left the landing gear and motor on the moon, and the accent stage took it back into lunar orbit.

[–] agentshags@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I had two middle aged coworkers the other day talking about how it was staged. I should have showed them both this today. But I didn't want to engage lol.

[–] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah it'd be a waste of your time and energy.

I had two friends recently suddenly drop into the conspiracist nutball rabbit hole, and I really don't have much enthusiasm to see them anymore. Last time I saw them they grilled me on the moon landings, and absolutely nothing I said meant anything to them. If I hesitated even for a second when answering one of their "accusations" they took it as proof that I'm the one who doesn't know what they're talking about – couldn't be that I was trying to think of a way of explaining something to people who clearly aren't familiar with the subject at all beyond whatever idiotic conspiracy garbage they've consumed.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The ability of god damn morons to gaslight the intelligent... ahh.... I am sadly familiar with it.

[–] NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You could also have staging in model rocketry. The largest we ever had was a 3-stage running on G-size engines. The "Red, White, and Clusterfuck". If all three stages ignited and properly, you got a solid boom outta her. The frame outlived several nosecones from the friction they had to endure.

[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

That sounds, intense.

[–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The Atlas rocket was single stage to orbit.

But yeah, every Gemini and Apollo rocket was staged, as was the space shuttle.

[–] nBodyProblem@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

It was partially staged. The main benefit of staging is dropping dry mass during the burn, and the Atlas I dropped engines

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Good luck making a single stage to lunar surface rocket.

[–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

I just need more struts.

[–] RacoonVegetable@reddthat.com 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

SSTO enthusiasts in shambles

[–] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

You mean single stage to orbit fans?

Honestly I'm surprised at the amount of people making SSTO jokes in the comments without knowing what that initialism stands for

[–] RacoonVegetable@reddthat.com 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yea I understand. That’s why they’re in shambles.

[–] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 1 points 4 months ago

Okay then I clearly just don't get your joke 😅

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 4 months ago

I think people understand what SSTO stands for. People are talking about SSTO because in your title you claimed the four stage Saturn V was single-staged

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Oh yeah uh... what about SSTOs huh? I bet we'll have some sick aerospike powered vehicles any day now!

spoilerRIP Rocketdyne XRS-220

[–] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 9 points 4 months ago

single stage to orbit

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

is this the fucking N1 rocket?

Damn bro, the US fucking died with this post.

[–] nBodyProblem@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

N1 had 30 engines on the first stage

yeah, it's just funny how visually similar they are in some respects.

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Nuh uh. They snuck the astronauts into the Star Trek sets at night and used the transporters obviously. They knew the props wouldn't have been convincing enough…

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