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Especially with the rise of "ghost postings" so quantity over quality is greater than ever these days

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[–] gingernate@lemm.ee 1 points 51 minutes ago

Spray and prey?

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Cover latter? Is it the 50ties? If a company wants a cover letter, I ain't applying. You got my CV. Need more info? Call me, the number is on the CV.

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

As someone from outside the US, I have no clue wtf is a cover letter, this isn't a thing in Brazil, you just send your resume.

[–] DillyDaily@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

I'm Australian and was always told the cover letter was unnecessary, especially if your CV has a bio.

The cover letter was for additional information not covered by the resume - name dropping the manager at the company you know who inspired you to apply, explaining why it appears your changing industries, justifying "overqualifications", mentioning a personal hobby that's relevant to the industry and isn't technical work experience.

Basically the things you plan to bring up in the interview to wow them, you can introduce them while introducing yourself in a cover letter.

But if your resume lines up with the position description, you don't need a cover letter.

Basically I was told a cover letter is necessary when you're a burnt out nurse or teacher applying to be a cashier at kmart to avoid having your resume immediately thrown out.

That said. I've literally never written one, even as a serial industry hopper. If there's no email address to send my resume too, then the system is too auto for a cover letter and they don't want to read it anyway, if there is an email address, just include a few lines of a short cover letter in the body text of the email before attaching your resume.

[–] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

It isn't a thing in the US anymore either.

[–] Rodrios@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

It's totally a thing here too. I've been asked for one when I apply for a job.

[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 16 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Plot twist: make a one size fits all resume, but have AI tailor it and transmit it everywhere.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Double twist:

Just go work for the AI

[–] doubletwist@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago (2 children)
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Hello? It is me Danny Barcelona

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

Are you sure you're not Linux?

[–] CorvidCawder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Is there a Lemmy equivalent to /r/beetlejuicing yet?

[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 1 points 9 hours ago

Leetlejuicing

[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 2 points 9 hours ago

Triple twist: Be the AI

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

I think cover letters are still absolutely relevant to the job process.

I liken cover letters to cheat sheets that you prepare for an exam. You may not need to make one to be successful, but can be very helpful.

Usually with cover letters, I try to make the argument that I'm good for the company, and the company is good for me. This usually allows me to frame the way I look a new job as a business agreement where both parties can benefit, and that I'm not a parasite taking from them and not giving.

I don't make cover letters for each and every position I apply to or look into, but for those ones i think I have a good chance of landing and those companies I believe in, I'll absolutely put in more effort with cover letters.

[–] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Nobody in my industry bothers to read them. You'd be lucky if they spend more than a minute on the resume so they're a waste of time.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Some organizations in my industry require them, so guess it depends.

Regardless of if it's required, however, I would still argue that it's good even if you don't have to send it to the company. To me, it helps me put my head in the right mindspace to argue for myself and make a case that I'm the person for them.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I think cover letters are still absolutely relevant to the job process.

Nope.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago

You're welcome.

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Interesting. I'm a hiring manager, and I've seen many cover letters that actually hurt the candidate because they have typographical errors, poor grammar, or are addressed to a different organization entirely. Probably 85% of cover letters I see do no harm; most of the rest hurt the candidate. The way you're describing a cover letter sounds like it would be beneficial, but I don't see ones like that very often. I definitely would appreciate that you took the time to tailor it to us.

My advice for everyone is, if you're going to write a cover letter, proofread it just like the resume. If you're short on time, focus on the resume and skip the cover letter (if you can - they might be required for some applications). I definitely notice a sloppy cover letter, so not having a cover letter will hurt far, far less than a sloppy one.

I wouldn't toss someone's application just because their cover letter had a typographical error in it, especially if the candidate is otherwise well qualified. But, if I'm borderline on whether I want to interview someone, and the cover letter is sloppy, I'm probably going to pass. We're pretty detail-oriented, and a sloppy cover letter makes me worry about the details.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

To me, I don't understand why someone would proofread their resume but not their cover letter.

Then again, I'd be someone that would put in the same degree of effort to the resume as the cover letter. Not everyone is like that.

Guess it just depends on if you find it worthwhile or not. If you can't seem to land jobs following interview after interview, it might be worthwhile to look into cover letters if only to help you orient yourself better to the job and company.

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

To me, I don’t understand why someone would proofread their resume but not their cover letter.

Yeah, I hear that...but you'd be surprised at how often I see perfectly-rendered resumes, and then multiple obvious issues in a cover letter.

The cover letter helps you get the interview - after I make the decision (offer or not), I pretty much forget about the cover letter.

[–] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 14 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

Maybe it's the shit market that I'm applying to, but when I apply for a retail job, they want a fully filled out application (that auto fill always Borks, so I have to type everything in manually) as well as a cover sheet and some places want you to take a personality quiz that you have to pass for hr to even see your application. I couldn't imagine applying to 4 jobs a day, let alone 40.

I imagine we are talking about corporate postings where you just paste a link to LinkedIn and that does most of the work?

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

if indeed doesn't allow me to quick apply, it's gotta be a dream job to even want to go to their site and do even more work.

[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 3 points 11 hours ago

Yeah, about that cover sheet. Did you not get the memo? We're putting new cover sheets on all the applications now, mmmkay? If you could just do that from now, that'd be great.

[–] CMonster@discuss.online 3 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I've worked for several big corps have never seen anything like that.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

lucky you, it's becoming more common.

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[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Jesus that sounds so demeaning. I haven't had to apply for a job in about 15 years now. All networking, and I was poached and offered my current job. Union now, so I'm set. I don't remember having to jump through so many hoops when I was younger and applying for a job, but recently I passed by a Wendy's and there must have been 50 people lined up outside with resumes because there was a job posting. That many people for one burger job, that's hard times.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago

Unless something really good comes up yeah. Also most of the time I just put my generic CV up and get calls from recruiters. So the actual people hiring don't even see my CV

[–] x4740N@lemm.ee 2 points 11 hours ago

Just use a cover letter template with changeable placeholders

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