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[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Strike. Singular. Cuz in a couple months Trump will take over and put that on ice.

Biden could do a whole lot more -- but won't.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Too little, too late. If Biden wanted to salvage his reputation at all, he'd have to do a hell of a lot more than authorizing something Ukraine has been asking for for a long-ass time now.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He should transfer like a trillion dollars of military equipment. It's an official act, so he'd be immune from prosecution.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How many nukes is that, because that's probably what it would take.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not a fan of proliferation of nukes to an unstable region.

But top-tier stealth fighters and bombers, anti-aircraft systems that can track hundreds of miles into Russia, tanks, a navy, and all the guns, bombs, armor, and electronic warfare equipment they'll accept sounds good.

Hell - give them the classified future-tech shit.

Make the Ukraine the best-equipped military in Europe with the stroke of a pen.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

uNsTaBle rEgioN

Why's it unstable?

[–] Ahrotahntee@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago

I bet it's lack of nukes.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I'm all for driving out Russia and making Ukraine free. But the reality is that it will have problems with political stability after this war, and with unstable countries veering right these days, the last thing we need is a fragile country with a right-wing nut job next door to its enemy armed with nukes.

Nukes are a great deterrent as long as nobody uses them.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I get what you are saying, but nukes are to prevent war not to be used as a defense.

Ukraine should just never have dismantled their nukes in the first place.

A better method would be to just allow Ukraine into the EU even though "not being at war" is one of the prerequisites.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

They did, on the promise that they would be taken care of. The moral of the story is, if you have nukes, you have to keep them now.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago

Its so annoying that when sleepy joe wakes up he actually does pretty good things. I think if biden would be kamala age he would actually be a better president as he seems much more progressive and has some pretty good policies. Of course theres gaza but that whole situation is such a mess.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 18 points 2 days ago

Joe daring Vlad to actually start that war he keeps talking about.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

If a certain orange haired moldy cheeto is gonna stop funding them, it's the least he can do with the last of his time. Let Ukraine give Russia a love letter in the form of missiles being allowed to strike deep into enemy territory.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Uncle Joe or Dark Brandon

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 5 points 2 days ago

Yeah, I don't think that'll make a huge difference. The minute the US stops supplying, Ukraine's in trouble.

[–] AliSaket@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

So Trump would have made annexation through military force acceptable. Instead we have Putin now changing Russia's nuclear doctrine to: Attacking in Russia, even with conventional weapons, merits a nuclear response. A member of a union will be considered as the union as a whole. And generally lowered the level of threat (to 'sovereignty' instead of the former 'existence'). https://www.newsweek.com/russia-putin-nuclear-doctrine-1988843

I don't see this ending well. The Ukrainians, who are getting the missiles do not only have their own interest of not conceding any territory, but also the interest in getting others, primarily the U.S. involved in a direct confrontation.