As a person of color, we do not trust the police.
This is why.
this post was submitted on 18 Nov 2024
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THE POLICE PROBLEM
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The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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About a year ago I had a very disruptive neighbor. Every night he would bring tons of women over and play loud music, and yell over the music with the people he had over.
Then, in the daytime he had a girlfriend, who worked nights. Every day she'd come over and they'd yell for hours and hours. She had a legitimate reason to be angry at him. He was the father of his child. He never married her, and in the 6 months he'd been a father he got 2 other bitches pregnant. Her words, not mine. On top of that, he was calling off work to invite MORE bitches over, and making up the lost money by pawning her jewelry. Which only got him $23 because the pawn dealer ripped him off. She says it was real gold, real diamonds. And the jeweler convinced him to sell for $23.
On top of that, he wouldn't even let her and his son move in with him because it would "clash with his business". Essentially he was just giving excuse after excuse after excuse.
Why she didn't just leave him, and sue for child support, I don't know. He was clearly using her. He didn't love her. They fought daily. Neither of them were happy. And as they fought, the baby cried and cried and cried.
I asked him to keep it down. Others in the building asked the same. His indoor voice was louder than most peoples "onstage without a microphone" voice.
In short, for 8 months it was a daily struggle to sleep.
But I only complained to the landlord. Never the police. When my sister found out, she couldn't imagine what I meant by "This isn't something to be resolved by the police".
My sister is a Karen. A real bad one. She wants all her problems to go away with a complaint from her to someone else.
But she never stops to put herself in others shoes. I restrain myself from saying I "hated" that neighbor. Only because I reserve hate to be powerful and meaningful. So I don't hate him. However I do think he was highly inconsiderate not only to his girlfriend/son, but also all around him at any given time.
A real "main character" complex.
Still though, I didn't call the police, because I didn't feel his inconsiderate behavior prompted a risk of death.
IF (any that's a big IF), If police could be trusted to arrive, handle citizen resolution in a fair non-violent way, then yes, I'd have called the cops. I certainly felt it was a job they SHOU LD do. It just didn't feel like a job they COULD be trusted to do.
And none of my family/white friends could understand why. All of my black friends did.
As a European, I am sorry that the US police is incompetent and dangerous like this that you cannot trust them to handle these kind of situations and have to be afraid that someone gets killed. In other countries this would be standard case to call the police for, although they could only handle the disturbance aspect if there is no direct indication of violence or abuse
I understand your motivations, but I think that guy would still have found his tires running flat on a regular basis. And his power going out. And any other petty things I could think of to make his life worse.
I hate that guy, whether you say it or not. He is bringing unwanted, unloved children into a world where they will always be at least a step behind their peers, and without any understanding of why their world is so hard. And the reason is THAT GUY. So fuck him. He deserves what he gets.
Partying all night every night, a kid would "disturb his business"?
Yeah I'm pretty sure this was some sort of low level hustler of some sort of stimulants, whatever might be the go-to wherever the earlier commenter is from.
I really wouldn't suggest making people like that annoyed in small ways like that, because they would never connect it to being a consequence of them acting that way and it would only make them more mad, probably making him more likely to harm others.
So... while it would be cathartic, remember to think twice.
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I never call the police for shit like that either. Some big animal is standing in the road? Sure. Car accident? Sure. If they’re already at the scene I’ll talk to them.
I’ve never seen anything get better in a heated situation because the cops showed up.
I grew up in complete chaos though. I seen my dad get beat half to death by them when I was a kid, followed a few years later by my brother being tackled and kicked at the bottom of our stairs.
My brother was a beast though, so I’m not sure anyone else could have controlled him that night.
He somehow survived being the beast he was and he’s a good father and a contributing member of society these days. Better than me actually.
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I'm the whitest white guy who ever whited, but I don't trust the police for the same reasons.
I don't trust anyone who could shoot me and get away with it.
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Never call the police why we all need to be armed. Seriously dude called for help and was killed in by the people who was supposed to protect him.
What they do to the lady who had broken in?
What they do to the lady who had broken in?
From the article:
Boudreaux was not hit by gunfire. She was booked for home invasion with a deadly weapon, assault with a deadly weapon child abuse and domestic violence.
I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up charged with felony murder because of the cop's escalation, though.
100%, ultimately she is the cause, and also, you KNOW the police ain't stepping up to take their own accountability.
Pretty sure gender also came into play.
As a person of personhood, this is likely the best default.
an officer-involved shooting occurred
Only the officer was involved in shooting.
that and the homeowner he wrongfully shot i guess but yeah mainly the cop shot while everyone else just got to be a part of being shot at
Guy had some violent criminals outside his house trying to break in and hurt him and his family. Calls the cops. Now he's got an extra violent criminal with a gun who breaks into his house and kills him. Why does anyone call the cops anymore???
What else do you do? I get the point but who else deals with that if you can't? At a certain point you have to roll those dice right?
But a gun, learn to use it, call a lawyer then cops. Or gamble on the cops and going fisticuffs with a knife like this poor guy did.
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You separate and control both people. You use your police h2h training to deescalate the situation, soak them both in pepper spray or taze them both while you sort out the facts. You get stabbed doing your duty to serve and protect civilians because you knew that is what you signed up for and why police are heroes.......
Oh wait.......
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"After Brandon Durham falls to the floor the officer shoots him five more times."
Sounds like a fucking execution.
Dead people can't sue. Also shooting isn't to disable, shooting is to kill. You are trained to keep shooting until you are confident the threat is neutralized.
Person that looks like they were just outside, with crime hoodie and all? Probably not the suspect. Some guy half naked in his evening wear? POW POW POW!!!
Shit like this will be the police's downfall, because once the people don't trust you, you're not a policie force, but civilian suppression force.
you’re not a policie force, but civilian suppression force.
Corporate has asked you to describe the difference between these two pictures.
Attacking the wrong person aside, opening fire during a knife attack (not directed towards cops) seems like a huge overreaction.
Also, person in undies vs a person in a hoodie and jacket. Who looks like they just got woken up out of bed vs was outside a moment ago.
Games should have friendly fire more often to remind everyone not to fire into a melee
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Shoot first, investigate ourselves later. The lesson here is don't call the police? There's a good chance that you'll overpower the attacker than be rescued by undertrained police.
My dad once called the police to help his friend who was having a bit of scary episode. He was threatening to hurt himself. My dad, in a panic and feeling helpless, was hoping the police could help bring him down from the edge. All they did was make the situation worse, barking orders and making demands, escalating emotions. The night ended with the friend being tazed and arrested.
My dad no longer calls the police for things. Honestly, we're extremely lucky he wasn't shot.
I always laughed at these house signs that say: we don't call 911 and two revolvers. Now i think they are actually right, just for the wrong reasons.
In 2025 you have to protect yourself from police in America. They could come to the wrong door and bust in and try to kill you. You have a right to defend your life and that includes killing a police officer.
The next president has already said he's going to give them blanket immunity. That means cops can do anything they want now
Forget about 911, buy a gun and train often. The police will not only not protect you, they will kill you even if you are innocent
I remember reading about major police fuck ups in 2000 when I was first really getting online. It never gets easier to look at these miserable excuses of policing. Best part is that the officer involved in this shooting was born at roughly the same time I became aware of this shit.
There's no better place to be a murdering son of a bitch than one's local police force. And that's a hundred fold now that's it's going to be the new Gestapo
Every leftist in this country needs to own a gun before they start banning gun sales based on political affiliation
Only YOU will be able to ensure your own safety in the next 4 years.
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Typical day on the job for police then
Sadly this is the reality of it, he was targeted simply because he was a man attacked by a woman and society is often as misandrist as it is misogynistic.
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Dipshit probably on paid leave
He won't even get that. They'll play it off like he had to make a call before the knife killed someone and that it's unfortunate the homeowner got shot. Even though you can clearly see the knife is in her hand....
The police don't do anything wrong this was proven when they investigated themselves....
When seconds matter... The cops are minutes away
He would've been better off if they were hours away!
"Dispatch told us the lady who called for help had a really low-pitched, masculine voice. Not our fault."
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