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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Maybe they voted against the incumbent so overwhelmingly because things are hard.

People vote based on their feelings.

When they were feeling pain, the message from the Dems was about how great the economy was, but the reality is that the stock market and GDP don't speak to the quality of life of these people. To them the Dems saying how great things were was dismissive of their real concerns.

Meanwhile, Trump latched onto their fears and concerns. Yeah, his policies are idiotic, and millions will suffer and be in worse shape. But when they said they couldn't pay the mortgage or buy groceries, he listened. The Democrats didn't because they've abandoned the working class that should be their backbone.

[–] tomalley8342@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Maybe they voted against the incumbent

I wouldn't be so confident about assigning such motivation.

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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

This type of meme isn't helpful when people already think the Dem Party isn't for working class people and elites only lol. Trump listened to people issues about material needs even if he lied. It still worked. Harris and Dems went on the whole time not addressing issues with the economy. Adopting a real working class agenda and free college would do wonders and putting resources to getting the crazy folk away from Education.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

Working classes don’t need healthcare or education? Quality of life is irrelevant? A strong economy doesn’t matter? One of the highest minimum wages doesn’t affect working class? I

Free college (depending on income)doesn’t matter?

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Ever been to MA?

Crapton of working class people there. I mean a lot. It is possible to have top-tier education and health care yet have working class people in the same State.

Being a rural state does not by default equate to “working class”. If anything it probably means more people per capita on government assistance or in poverty.

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[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Sadly Mass is also close to #1 in terms of cost of living.

I like it here but I don't like what it costs.

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 58 points 1 week ago (15 children)

Oh no! #1 in cost of living and #1 in quality if life? And among the lowest poverty?

Do people really just need social support to thrive? No way! It's gotta be stuff! Cheap stuff! That's what life's all about!

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

No arguments from me, that's why I don't want to live anywhere else.

It does sting a bit to be stuck living with high rent in an apartment when my income would allow me to buy a decent house in another part of the country. But then I likely wouldn't have this income in other parts of the country, either.

When I moved back to the US from China, I immediately had health insurance thanks to Masshealth. Helped me have peace of mind while I was searching for a job back here. And now I get to work for an organization that helps other people land on their feet when big life changes happen, which is easier to do here than elsewhere.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

It’s pretty difficult to find anywhere in the US currently that has good jobs, good entertainment and restaurants, access to healthcare, good schools, and isn’t expensive. Sure, you can get a house cheaper in rural Kansas or something but then you have to live in rural Kansas.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Second in American health care. ..

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I crisscrossed Oklahoma on one of my cross-country trips, the state absolutely sucks and they even know it that's why you can legally drive like 80mph through the whole thing.

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[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Massachusetts is also 4th in the country for states with the most people leaving to live elsewhere.

No doubt due to cost of living because Massachusetts is ridiculously expensive. The friends I have there are either leaving or totally resigned to not owning a house or ever retiring. Comparing a historically important coastal population center to a historically poor and strategically insignificant flyover state doesn't prove much.

The states with highest domestic emigration (e.g. people voting with their feet to leave) are overwhelmingly left leaning. (Except for Louisiana and Ohio)

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago (4 children)

So progressive places make a place so desirable to live in that people are willing to compete with each other for the experience.

[–] blady_blah@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

"Why are blue states always so expensive?!". It's supply and demand. High demand to live someplace makes it expensive.

My million dollar house is worth as much as it is because of its located near high paying jobs, good school, and good neighbors. It's expensive to live where I live because lots of people want to live here.

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[–] wieson 20 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Wasn't Oklahoma supposed to be given back to the native tribes? Like more than 50% of it?

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

It was. And in fact the Supreme Court ruled in McGirt v. Oklahoma that the reservations still exist. One consequence is that Google Maps now shades the entire eastern half of the state in dark shading showing the borders between the Cherokee, Creek, Choctaw, Chickasaw, and so forth.

The tribal governments are taking an increasing role in providing public services to all of the citizens within their borders, as the civil state government descends deeper into libertarianism.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Oklahoma was built on genocide. Is it any wonder those that govern it are garbage people.

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[–] iheartneopets@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

West Virginia also voted straight red, I believe

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[–] kaotic@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

You can’t come at these people with facts.

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