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Published: October 31, 2024

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[–] x00z@lemmy.world 34 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Ah yes, greenwashing. Thanks Microsoft.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Wood on concrete πŸ₯³!

Wood colored concrete πŸ€”!

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 12 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Wood? You mean Fire's Favourite Food?

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 minutes ago

Fire suppression systems, and fire prevention mechanisms, are no joke in a data center.

Plenty of systems that displace oxygen in the room to prevent combustion.

Many places won't let you even bring combustable materials into the data center spaces. Receiving department unboxes and puts cardboard right into the baler. Wanna store stuff in your cage? Better be in a tote.

Also, humidity is strictly controlled to prevent static buildup.

The most likely place for a fire to break out in a data center would be from battery backup systems. But at the scale that most large facilities have, there is a dedicated battery room, or they use something else for instantaneous load transfer, like flywheels.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 17 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

What does a datacenter need a huge glass front for? Slashing carbon emissions? Yeah right.

[–] Sporkbomber@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

Clients looking to rent data center space still like to see pretty spaces in their giant concrete boxes. So on a campus there is usually one of the builds that has something prettier for the front admin section.

But square footage is money, so it's much smaller.

They actually go for LEED certification for their spaces a lot of times. So they get an energy efficiency badge for a building that uses the total power of a ~3500 homes (in the builds I have seen) 24/7/365.

[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 16 points 17 hours ago

Maybe it's meant to let the sun in and save on the heating... in... a buildind that has significant excess of... nevermind.

[–] bebabalula@feddit.dk 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Talk about putting lipstick on a pig…

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 12 points 18 hours ago

No no. Those trees died of natural causes. /s

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 80 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

This is a puff peice to distract. Microsoft has made no effort to lessen their carbon footprint.

[–] brlemworld@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

Technically it just makes their carbon footprint even larger

[–] SilverFlame@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I recently had a tour of the Redmond campus. They have multiple geothermal wells for power as well as an air conditioning system that uses almost no energy, it was pretty neat.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Too bad all that cool stuff is negligible compared to what actually makes a difference

[–] b3an@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

With huge campuses some business have, I wouldn't call it negligible. Unless you yourself are running a huge business campus and have some insight on how these noobs should be doing it. πŸ˜…

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If they really cared about carbon emissions, they would shut down all of their AI crap.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

Shut down themselves even better.

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Slash emissions by using the dead bodies of the source that removes carbon?

[–] gsfraley@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I mean, that's the mechanism by which carbon is removed. It goes into tree, tree dies or gets cut down taking all the solidified carbon with it, new tree gets planted in its place to repeat the cycle. In fact, the fastest way to scrub carbon with the practice is to farm trees, assuming you do it sustainably.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You mean sequestered, not removed. It's one fire away from being back in circulation.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Do you propose some alchemy that transforms carbon to another element? Remove carbon from the atmosphere and stop putting more up in there.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

graph of binding energy per nucleon for stable nuclei

And gives some energy (and building material) in the process? Yeah, it's just kinda hard.

[–] credo@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well, don’t set any data centers on fire.

[–] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 21 hours ago

But what if I really want to :(

[–] db2@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Noted for the future.

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

So is every tree

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So the best thing you can do with a tree, is to cut it down and use it as materials, if we want to release as little CO2 as possible?

And ofc this depends on new trees being planted in its stead.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 1 points 8 hours ago

And ofc this depends on new trees being planted in its stead.

Hence farming trees...

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Trees are carbon neutral. They pull the carbon out and sequester it in themselves. When they rot or burn, the carbon is returned.

[–] Cryan24@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So lots of heat plus combustible material.. That sounds like a winning idea to me.

[–] Blemgo@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

If memory serves right, one of Germany's datacenters went up in flames a few years ago because they had wooden flooring and no adequate fire suppression systems.

EDIT: it was in France, and Europe's biggest datacenter.

[–] aeno@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Blemgo@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Ah, seems to be right, my bad.

Also, to correct myself a bit more: it was Europe's biggest datacenter.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago

LOL they are trying to trick us. Microsoft we see you.

[–] gencha@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago

I've also put wood panels on my car to save the environment. It's pretty useful.

[–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Woot! Heavy timber construction!