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I was just reading this post https://old.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/1gmv76n/is_reddit_going_to_remain_the_primary_space_for/ and many barely see the fediverse as an alternative and they seem to have a negative bias towards it. Super ironic when it comes to the self-hosting community. Yes, some instances are problematic, yes, some devs might have had problematic views. But it doesn't really matter when it's federated and FOSS. I think it's clear-cut that the selfhosting community on Lemmy is a perfect alternative to reddit. Why is there such a negative bias?

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[–] Zier@fedia.io 25 points 6 days ago

We are having a great time over here in the Fediverse, and they are jealous. So we will continue to have a blast, just to piss them off.

[–] Ithorian@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Because people off Reddit hate everything that its not reddit

[–] dave@feddit.uk 7 points 6 days ago

People on Reddit. We’re the people off Reddit :)

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[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I mean, read the post? They explain themselves pretty well there. Or are you linking it with hopes we'll brigade or something?

Lemmy hate comes down to two or three things: they don't like communists, or they're confused by it. Or they're waiting for it to be bigger.

[–] BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

That would require making a reddit account. Ew.

[–] Rakenclaw@fedia.io 16 points 6 days ago

No idea, quit Reddit over a year ago for fedia/lemmy. Never used x/twitter either, i use mastodon.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Besides other factors mentioned in this thread, there's also

  • selection bias: people with a positive view of Lemmy already migrated, so the leftover is bound to have more negative views
  • older userbase: older people use language in a different way, talk about different topics, and dig into those topics in a different way. That often makes younger people throw a tantrum.
  • group identity: for those "AS A SNOO" we're basically apostates.
  • edit: personal drama between higher ups is more visible here than in Reddit.
[–] jonathan@lemmy.zip 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Doesn't !selfhosted@lemmy.world have like 40k subscribers? Top ten Lemmy community by sub count, iirc.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Bingbingbing!

The people still exclusively on Reddit are on Reddit because they don't like the Fediverse or they're unwilling to change their habits. Had they liked it and been genuinely open for change they would have made the switch, or at least used both platforms.

This is not so much true for the average user, as they might not be aware of the federated alternatives at all, or they might think it sounds too hard. But it's absolutely true for the self-hosting community.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Seems to me most people in that thread seems relatively open minded? The people dismissing Lemmy completely appears to be downvoted, and people seem to have a nuanced understanding that it's a better platform in theory but sadly less active.

I'm sure they're right. I'm a slow person who thinks there's plenty of activity over here, but if you're used to the adrenaline of Reddit it must feel a little small town-y.

To be honest except on things like sports and politics, reddit kind of feels like a ghosttown too. So many posts with huge amounts of upvotes and like 2 bot generated comments. The power commenter types seem to have left after the exodus and been replaced by lots of people who scroll and like but don’t really venture much into comments.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Main reason is people are too lazy to change their ways and don’t want to feel like they’ve been making the wrong choice all along.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The feel of Lemmy communities is a little different than Reddit, even if the software features are mostly analogous and there are many Redditisms used.

Your average commentor/poster will stand out more in a small community, there's less of being able to post and then slink away.

People have gotten used to a lot more comforting features of modern Reddit, Lemmy in both the users and in the software has more of a "Reddit 10-15 years ago" feel to it.

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[–] blue_berry@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

I'm pretty sure most just don't know about us or don't care

[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 7 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Could be their total intolerance for opposing views, don't see that on Reddit but it's rampant on Lemmy.

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[–] Zak@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The higher-score comments there don't seem to be particularly hostile to Lemmy. They talk about legitimate concerns like whether Lemmy as it exists now could deal with a Reddit-size volume of data, The top comment at this time speaks favorably of !selfhosted@lemmy.world.

Of course people who are still using Reddit are more likely to view Reddit as favorable or acceptable and alternatives as problematic, or not quite there yet. I'm actively Fediverse-first in my use of social media, but I still end up on Reddit quite a bit for niche interests because that's where the most people are.

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