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Asking as someone from the other side of the planet.

From the things I saw about the US election, the Dems were the side with plans for the economy - minimum wage adjustments, unions, taxing the rich, etc. The Republicans didn't seem to have any concrete plans. At least, this is what I saw.

I don't doubt Bernie Sanders though - he seems like a straight truth teller. But what am I missing?

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[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Identity politics, gun control, immigration, lagging economic recovery for labor, inflation and a distinct lack of ability to formulate a simple message. Sank Dems with the working class.

Policies are nice but most Americans don’t have a clue and don’t research anything.

Kamala spouted a bunch of policies and no message of hope. Trump had a bunch of headline grabbing antics and one liners. Guess which one wins with most Americans.

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Identity politics? That's a republican issue. They bring it up. The most democrats do is block, but all the punches are thrown by the right in campaigns. I didn't even hear a gun control proposal this round.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Did you happen to visit Kamala’s website during the election. She listed who she represented…. Black males, Latino Males, no mention of working class white peoples.

That is identity politics. If you wonder why white women voted for Trump, they did it for their sons who aren’t mentioned at all.

Both Kamala and Biden championed another assault weapons ban.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

How is this true?

No, it's not true. The liberals never had the working class' backs.

Liberalism fetishizes capitalism, remember?

I don’t doubt Bernie Sanders though - he seems like a straight truth teller.

He's not consciously lying - Bernie, like all liberals, actually believes you can (somehow) represent both the interests of the working class while also representing the interests of the capitalist class that is parasitizing off their labor. As any leftist will tell you, this is pure delusion.

[–] Rogue@feddit.uk 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I'm very intrigued by your definition of Liberalism. It doesn't correlate with liberalism across the world.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It doesn’t correlate with liberalism across the world.

Really? Find me an anti-capitalist liberal. that should be very easy if this...

It doesn’t correlate with liberalism across the world.

...was the truth.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm an anti-capitalist liberal.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No, Clyde. You're not.

You are just politically incoherent, like people who call themselves "fiscally conservative and economically progressive" (or whatever claptrap so-called "centrists" tell themselves).

Liberalism fetishizes capitalism. If you're anti-capitalist, you have abandoned liberalism.

This is not complicated.

Next you'll be telling me you're an anarcho-fascist.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This makes you less of a capitalist bootlicker... how, exactly?

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't have to prove myself to you because there's nothing to prove.

It's a pissing contest, and I refuse to get piss on me.

But if that's your thing, I won't kink shame.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Again. This makes you less of a capitalist bootlicker… how, exactly?

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee -4 points 5 days ago

Of course you didn't provide your own. That's typical, sadly enough. We all know there are varying definitions, and if you're going to undercut someone else's, which may be a reasonable thing to do, why not bring yours to the table? ... But only if you care to continue the conversation.

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