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Proton launches privacy-focused Google Docs alternative: Docs in Proton Drive is an open-source, end-to-end encrypted collaborative document editor (proton.me)
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[–] wagoner@infosec.pub 56 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

For every proton post, can we please get a bot that auto posts these, to save everyone the effort:

  • proton isn't private / yes it is / they never claimed to be
  • wasnt there a case when they shared that activist account / you have the facts wrong, here's what actually happened
  • [insert proton app name] for Linux when? / Linux is only x% of user base
  • proton needs to finish [insert proton app name] before starting something new / they are different teams so not relevant
  • proton needs to make X / no they don't
  • people shouldn't put all their eggs in one basket / don't use the service then

Thanks!

[–] refalo@programming.dev 6 points 2 days ago

You forgot proton is glowing / no they're not

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[–] mayra@lemmy.world 73 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Very cool but Proton Drive for Linux when?

[–] barcaxavi@lemmy.world 46 points 3 days ago

I feel like their goal is more close to providing a privacy-minded alternative to Google's G-suite to "regular" users, so for me it totally makes sense. But yeah, I'm also really waiting for the Linux drive app.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (6 children)

They don't care.

[–] mayra@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (9 children)

That might be it. Whatever the reason, it seems like a missed opportunity. Especially when they go out of their way to provide direct APKs to Android users who do not use Play Store.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago

Especially when they go out of their way to provide direct APKs to Android users who do not use Play Store.

They already had to make the APK for the Play Store, providing it directly doesn't require extra dev work.

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[–] RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don’t think they don’t care, they have been adding Linux versions for all of their apps (except drive of course). The CEO themselves said in an interview that a Linux client for drive is inevitable and they will make one, but one of the hardest clients to develop.

[–] VerseAndVermin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

The guy who made the Backblaze software said it was already done and was easy for their standard client to work with Linux but never got rolled out because Linux users are power users. I wonder if that is the real reason when it comes to Proton. It's not unlimited but maybe there is some power user use that they anticipate and don't want to deal with.

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[–] 0oWow@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago (3 children)

FYI this does not include spreadsheets, so if you're hoping to replace an office suite, it's not there yet.

[–] Roopappy@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Spreadsheets are life. I think in spreadsheets. I hope it comes soon.

[–] krash@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Have you tried a low-code database, such as nocodb? I tried satisfy my need for structures data that way and it works for simple usecases. There are formulas too, but they (like spreadsheets) require some knowledge to set up.

[–] dRLY@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago

Maybe Cryptpad would be a good option if you need spreadsheets more than documents.

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

However, subscribing is aiding in their funding, and that could help get them there quicker.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 38 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Looks like its based on Standard Notes

https://github.com/standardnotes

[–] sour@feddit.de 14 points 3 days ago

It probably IS standard notes, given that Proton acquired them.

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 days ago

That'd make sense, given that they recently joined forces

[–] refalo@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago

Source? This looks like a note-taking app, not a google docs replacement.

[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I need an android app

[–] Tubulous@beehaw.org 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You sort of have one but not really. You can launch it from the Android Proton Drive app. Granted it then launches it into a web browser, but GrapheneOS/Vanadium seems to handle it well. Would also prefer an app, or allow me to use Standard Notes as the client and sync with my Proton account.

[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I can't seem to find the option in the proton drive app.

[–] Tubulous@beehaw.org 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ah you are right - I had created the Proton Doc on the web and launched it after from Android after. I did not actually create the file in Android. Just checked and the option is not there for me either. Maybe next update? Still would prefer the ability to use Standard Notes as the client, similar to how I can with SimpleLogin today.

[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm still figuring out proton. I'm trying to switch most of my account over to proton. You use the simple login app? Doesn't proton pass have that ability as well?

[–] Tubulous@beehaw.org 1 points 2 days ago

Yes - you can use your Proton account to log directly into Simplelogin via web, browser extension, or Android app. I suspect the Proton Pass feature is related to their partnership with Simplelogin but not sure? I actually just noticed the email generation Pass feature this week. Having that integrated into the password manager is really handy. May be time to start using it but migrating password managers is a pain.

[–] FuryMaker@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Nice.

This might just be the push to fully switch over from Google.

[–] Eggyhead@kbin.run 6 points 3 days ago

I would need spreadsheets and slideshow presentations as well.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago

So... where's the source?

[–] Drm12@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago

I am still waiting for contacts app😔

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Has anyone used it?

How did you get to it?

Clicked the link:

At that time, if you go to drive.proton.me(new window) and click on New in the top left, you will see the ability to create a New document

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[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago (3 children)

What would be the benefits of this over Nextcloud, apart from not having to set it up?

[–] sudneo@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago

Over nextcloud probably the e2ee. I suppose soon they will also integrate this better with email (like you can attach directly and save directly from email), so the seamless integrations with the rest of the products will probably amount to other benefits over time.

[–] Dymonika@beehaw.org 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't think it's Nextcloud competition so much as Google Drive competition, which is certainly closed-source.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 7 points 3 days ago

Nextcloud doesn't do end-to-end encryption

[–] chris@lem.cochrun.xyz 5 points 3 days ago

Lack of true open cooperation? Oh wait, you said benefit.... Ease of use? Maybe? And slightly less buggy?

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is it FOSS?

[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I imagine it is. Developing something like that in house would take a lot. Probably Collabora or something.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 11 points 3 days ago

Looks like its based on Standard Notes

https://github.com/standardnotes

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