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Switzerland.

I like to witness what direct democracy looks like.

Although, I'm not sure if they like an Asian immigrant.

Oh and learning four languages is a big challenge, lets hope in this hypothetical I get a language translator brain implant. πŸ˜…

I managed to learn english when I arrived in the US around age 8-10, now in early 20s, I aint gonna be able to learn 4 languages, I barely passed spanish class.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

First choice would be a nordic country. They generally rank high up in metrics like health, happiness, etc....

Close second behind those would be New Zealand.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Yep, that's my list too. My nephew went to NZ but I've been to a few nordics and I can confirm life is easier there. More taxes, way better life: economies of scale, my dood.

The best one I've seen is the one with the deceptively harsh name that implies a place no one wants to visit. It's great PR. Go there. It's pricy as hell if you try to live like an American with the fast food and flash, but just live, and you'll find a vibrant lifestyle and real happiness.

Yep, nordics are the happiest places on earth.

[–] Alborlin@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Hi I live in one of the Nordic country.you are right , if you want a serene, calm, without hiccups life , this is the place to be, excellent for spending your retirement years, and enjoy nature. BUT life here is long and boring, agreed you won't live like AMERICAN lifestyle here but as you said you just live, there is no excitement, the long dark winters even down in southern parts of countries are unbearable sometimes, there is less you can do, yesterday I saw restaurant about 49 minutes away from me , for specific radler beer at around 7 o clock and I knew I could go there because it was in other nearby city, I knew if I went now I won't be able to back at my home since buses/trains will stop. Lot of out people who come to work on Monday , take a flight and if they reach anything after 8pm , they stay in big city just because there is no train in midnight. It's manageable, silence is deafning , life pace is less than crawl and YOU need vitamin D from day 1.

[–] Willie@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago (3 children)

There's a country in Europe called Ireland.

I don't know much about the politics and policies there, but what I do know is that if I drop the street view guy there, most places are green and pretty. That puts it pretty high up on my list.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago

Wait until you hear them speak. It's music. Can't nearly comprehend it, like you were dropped into St John's , blind drunk, but they certainly love the language with each syllable.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 7 points 1 day ago

Irish people generally feel a lot of empathy for Palestinians, as fellow victims of English colonialism.

I’ve been there. It’s really nice.

[–] beliquititious@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

New Zealand I've never been and know little about the day to day life of a new zealander, but it looks so beautiful and quiet there.

[–] insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They generally come up tops in country listings for good gov stuff. They're not perfect but I like them!

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago

Jacinda got booted, though, and they're on a conservative swing for a bit. Standard post-covid bellyaching leveraged by some slick populist full of lies and scams, but they're not going to give away the country - ahem - before they claw their sanity back.

[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Probably Japan. I like the culture and how everyone seems decent, or at least know to mind their own business.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 hours ago

I hear they're fighting some gaijin racism in the cities, as they maintain a strong "us" vs "not us" awareness and it can get tricky.

[–] SwordInStone@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

ultra conservative culture tho

Not a female then.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 20 hours ago

I like many things about Japan, but not the work-a-holic culture.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Almost anywhere in Europe would be nice, but Ireland sticks out to me.

They're part of the EU, and they primarily speak English, so the language barrier wouldn't be as bad. (though I'd be happy to study Irish/Gaeilge)

As for politics and/or the economy there, I don't know much, but I am pretty sure they haven't elected a fascist who's quoted Hitler.

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Not quoting Hitlerz but the "prime minister" did say about rent for a one bedroom apartment being over €2k that "people need to remember that one man's rent is another man salary".

The president is nice though, although he's just a decorative position, he seems like a very sensible Hobbit.

[–] ExtravagantEnzyme@lemm.ee 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

New Zealand would be a fun place to relocate. While it does suck they're part of the 5 eyes as their government loves snuggling up to the US, the life outlook of the citizens is admirable. The money someone has or doesn't have isn't a consideration regarding how someone is viewed. A millionaire and a home-free individual are seen similarly when first met thanks to this mindset. Both mountain towns and island towns have a laid back approach to each day, which would be a nice change of pace. New Zealand is also both, as it's an island with a couple huge mountains. Snowboarding and surfing are a ton of fun, especially when the travel time is minimal. So ya, New Zealand would be a solid choice in my book!!

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 hours ago

On the island in western Canada they have a yearly tradition of going into the mountains and snowboarding around and then travelling an hour or so to the coast and kayaking. Little cold for surfing but they do that too.

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If I had it to do over again (born/raised in the US, living in Japan), I might pick Norway or Finland over Japan, but overall I'm fairly happy where I am.

[–] simon@slrpnk.net 1 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Just curious, why do you prefer those countries over Japan? Anything lacking there?

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Japan's economic policy always has been weird, but lately things just keep appearing to get worse with like 30 years worth of shrinkflation happening all at once and wages not raising with inflation at all. The yen has slid against the dollar to pretty terrible rates. While it sucks for me personally wanting to do things like visit family overseas, it also plays a role in imports. Especially post 3-11 when they started turning off nuclear, a lot of fuel for everything, including keeping the lights on, must be imported. The low JPY basically just benefits the export markets.

More progressive, basically. The person who came second for PM wants to continued forced unified surnames (at least when both people getting married are Japanese) and has a bunch of positions on things like LGBTQI that drag progress backward. It also reads like she would revoke broadcasting licenses for news channels whose politics she doesn't like. We already legally have to pay a yearly fee (kinda like a UK license fee, I think) for owning anything capable of receiving a TV signal. This was initially done (at least in part) to fund NHK (Japan's BBC or PBS or whatever) outside of the government. They still have self-censored and at times aired wildly bullshit, racist things (particularly around corona). The position is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanae_Takaichi and, if another PM election which is not unlikely soon, I suspect she might win.

[–] simon@slrpnk.net 2 points 9 hours ago

Thanks for sharing. I can definitely see how life can be better in a richer and more progressive place. I guess a major factor for choosing where to live should be whether people there are hopeful for the future.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Eh.... Unless you are actually Japanese, you're probably going to be hanging out with other ex-pats, or just very lonely.

Japan is an extremely conservative and insular country. They don't really mind people visiting for the most part, but they don't really think highly of people actually immigrating there.

There are ethnic Koreans who have lived in communities in Japan for hundreds of years who are still considered outsiders and are treated like second class citizens.

[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 2 points 14 hours ago

Eh.... Unless you are actually Japanese, you're probably going to be hanging out with other ex-pats, or just very lonely.

I disagree here. Learn the language and hang out where Japanese hang out.

Japan is an extremely conservative and insular country. They don't really mind people visiting for the most part, but they don't really think highly of people actually immigrating there.

The "they" here is doing a lot of work. Certainly, a number of people are anti-immigration as they see an erosion of their tradition and some, the I suspect it an ever-shrinking minority, Others are mostly fine with immigration if it's "the right kind/race of immigrants". I have a loving family here in my in-laws with whom I am often involved (grandpa loves writing letters). As for immigration itself, in the ~10 years I've been here, they've added new visas with quicker paths to permanent resident status. One can apply for citizenship after 5 years (though it requires renouncing all others which is why I don't do it -- I do wish they'd change that).

There are ethnic Koreans who have lived in communities in Japan for hundreds of years who are still considered outsiders and are treated like second class citizens.

I don't know exactly what you're referencing here. There are zainichi Koreans who are in a weird spot. There is more racism to people from the neighboring countries than perhaps others, but that's also not universal. A lot of Koreans that are here because their homes/families were in the north don't take Japanese citizenship and, often, don't really feel Japanese either; they feel their identity is north korean, but don't move their either for obvious reasons. As such, they don't take Japanese citizenship and are basically waiting to "go home". I used to hang out with one and my wife knew a couple and they are in an interesting spot. They often also go schools run by nork-friendly institutions and some (many? all?) do at least visit pyongyang once, but they're well aware of how much they are taught and shown is carefully curated and not typical. Anyway, the not taking citizenship and not going home does rub some (especially the far right) the wrong way and they'd rather they GTFO. Edit: a lot of the families were brought over, often involuntarily, during Japan's colonization of Korea and WWII.

Racism is definitely something that I think is shrinking over time, but definitely still too high and a problem to be addressed.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

After last night, most certainly I wish I took French in highschool so I could be taking French now in college. Just to move out of the USA and to greener pastures like Switzerland. Haven't heard any bad news about them going fascist yet.

[–] Tazerface@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

Estonia. Digital privacy is my thing and Estonia is the world's only e-government. They also have the strongest privacy laws.

Ireland, I speak the language, plus they seem comparatively reasonable.

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Singapore. One of the few (if not the only) developed country in the east/southeast Asia region where you can get by not having to learn a new language. Great public transportation. I’m an urban person so dense megacities are my thing. I’m also Asian so I blend in.

[–] SeikoAlpinist@slrpnk.net 2 points 23 hours ago

+1 Singapore. Good food, I don't stand out in a crowd, future city.

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[–] Strider@thelemmy.club 13 points 1 day ago

Why choose one country? I'm selling everything and buying a boat.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'd like to live in Switzerland, beautful nature and they seem to have a very stable political system that is fairly responsive to the citizenry and its welfare. They know they have a good thing and they work to keep it that way, plus might run into Shania Twain so thats cool too!

Also easier to learn French and German since its everywhere around you and I guess the defaults

[–] MrQuallzin@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My wife and I were speculating about moving to B.C. Canada today...

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I hope you have a lot of money. Housing is brutally expensive on Canada's West Coast.

We'd be happy to have you though.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 hours ago

Yeesh. Can confirm. c$4/sqft/mo in the V3L.

c$1.6m for a moldy (no res permit) fully detached that's been there since WW1. Gonna need gutting and remediating for about c$.3m but it looks good in photos.

But verrry little snow to mess up the frail subway.

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[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

New Zealand because it has the most going for it in terms of community.

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

New Zealand is an amazing place. It's like someone created the most idealic version of England. It feels very English, except the people are friendlier, the food is better, and the landscape is far more amazing and spacious.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Norway. At least according to Germany I'm a Norwegian citizen. And I have a lot of relatives there. It's a stunningly beautiful country. And I think their politics aren't as braindead as the rest of the world's.

[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Rural Japan, just me, my dog, a partner and a handful of neighbours and unrivaled nature.

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[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Canada (from US.) I like where I live, I just don't like the government.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 hours ago

Come up and get sworn in. We're at risk of a populist conservative wank ruining the things we hold dear and we could use more sanity.

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Italy , its such a beautiful country.

Austria. I'd love to live in Vienna. It's so gorgeous and such a great city.

[–] Klanky@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 day ago

Iceland or Finland. Love both of those places, from the people to the landscape.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 points 1 day ago

I've always wanted to visit Japan, but I dunno if I'd wanna live there.

Maybe one of the Scandinavian countries.

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