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Trump winning supports the genocide of every LGBTQ+ person in all of North America, be it directly or indirectly. No one wants what is happening in Gaza. But, I have to say the potential genocide (in the sense of complete erasure of culture as well as open murders with little to no consequences sense) here is even higher.

I have the unfortunate circumstance of being a trans woman in GA. I already have had to completely shut off most contact with people, both work and personal.

I’ve already had rocks thrown at me in an attempt to kill me (this was years ago, even). I already feel like I have to carry a gun. If things go the way they seem, I will even have to order in groceries because it will further empower the people that hate my existence.

The foreign policy is shit, no question. However, I don’t like the possibility of being raped and murdered by some asshole that thinks he understands Co² emissions after watching some video.

I have a lot to say here, especially as a very blue collar machinist. I will refrain, though.

In conclusion: by “avoiding” the genocide in Gaza (which would have in my opinion had a much higher chance of being resolved with Democratic policies), you have also doomed people like me to maybe live in fear for the rest of our lives.

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[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 1 points 5 days ago

Never forget: Trump doesn't truly care about anything, except himself. Not even his family (not even Ivanka). He used certain hot-topic issues to get himself elected and thereby stay out of jail, but now he will promptly drop and forget all about them. He can't be elected again, so he won't even bother campaigning. I mean... maybe he'll become a king and nobody will ever vote again, but even there, he won't be "appealing to people's worst instincts" anymore - his election not only is a gamer-changer, it has literally CHANGED THE GAME. Except he's so terribly old, that sometime during his next term he will go the route of Biden and just kinda sit down and rest but never get back up.

We saw this shortly after his first election, where the literal KKK got so terribly disappointed in him for not showing up for them. Granted, he shifted the scale, but nowhere close to what they wanted. And after his impeachment, he failed to show up for the people who were put in jail for showing up for him. And even before all of that, when he was given the Republican nomination prior to his first election, he said that he'd fix campaign financing and unfairness, then within a week (probably a day) said that he was never going to do that. Hey, remember "Lock her up"? Yeah, she's not locked up, and never will be.

Trump LIED.

So I get why you are feeling down - but don't allow yourself to fall too deep into depression. That's what they want you to do - to give up without a fight. But you should not, b/c there's work to be done - you are needed:-).

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 83 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I hope for the best for your safety, sanity, and well being. Fuck this "interesting times" nonsense.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 31 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

There's a reason people's are cursed "to live in interesting times."

[–] jawa21@startrek.website 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I have to reply here because SDF was down for a while and federation is still catching up. I want yout to know, though, you've kept me laughing and that has helped me a lot, so thanks for that.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

Thank you for doing the same.

The laughter is the release and therapy we'll be needing going forward.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 82 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I hate to downvote a Star Trek meme, but that top half is inaccurate. America voted for a genocide of American LGBTQ and Gaza. Both.

We "avoided" precisely fuck-all and everyone who claimed otherwise is a blatant goddamn liar.

[–] jawa21@startrek.website 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You're not wrong. Yeah, I could have done better, but I'm in a self induced drunken rage.

[–] cows_are_underrated 12 points 2 weeks ago

Understandable. I feel sorry for you guys.

[–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

It's directed at people who absolutely cannot vote for Harris due to her stance on Gaza. Instead, they enabled a war on their LGBTQ neighbors.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago

But that's my point, though: they didn't do that "instead." They did that in addition to!

Fucking lying, bloodthirsty, fascist clowns, all of them.

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[–] Duke_Nukem_1990 68 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Trump winning supports the genocide of every LGBTQ+ person in all of North America, be it directly or indirectly.

Trump winning also supports the genocide in Gaza.

[–] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is very true. I wanted to address the idea that not a single outlet has touched on, though.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Should just be pointing yes at both.

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[–] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 54 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Trump literally said Israel should finish the job. You're getting both genocides and probably a few on top!

[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ukrainians in Ukraine too. And immigrants in US. Interesting times.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A genocide of brown people too. And not just the ones in the U.S. illegally. Anyone who is brown and happens to be in the wrong place at the wrong time either without ID or with an ID that a cop thinks is fake or stolen is going to be sent to a camp. That's not even a "potential" thing. Trump has promised to deport millions of people. There is no way they can do that without accidentally deporting plenty of citizens and putting them in concentration camps first while they work out extradition deals.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 47 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

In conclusion: by “avoiding” the genocide in Gaza (which would have in my opinion had a much higher chance of being resolved with Democratic policies), you have also doomed people like me to maybe live in fear for the rest of our lives.

Doesn't matter. They get to LARP with their purity politics. The lives of American minorities don't matter to them.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

I've taken to calling them out as exactly what they are: virtue signallers. Like you said, they're just larping about caring about these people, and boy do they get salty when they have to deny it.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 44 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

The number of people who essentially told me that my kid's life didn't matter because of Gaza before this election was just disgusting.

And they're going to stand there as queer people are marched into conversion camps and say it was your fault.

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[–] nzeayn@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

the neat part is now we get both genocides.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He had one genocide, yes. But what about the second (and third) genocide?

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[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago
[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago

Bottom panel should be "Genocide in Gaza AND..."

[–] SonOfMothman@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

Oh trump is going to help flatten Gaza with such a raging boner. Everyone that voted “uncommitted” has the blood on their hands they blamed others. Fucking repugnant

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[–] Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

I told this to one of the tankies over in leftymemes, got called a genocide apologist and banned. Funny thing is, one of their mods is trans. Not American, though, so it doesn't matter to her I guess. And let me tell you, that mod in particular, she was working hard to convince people not to vote for Harris. Didn't have much to say about Trump, though... pretty interesting.

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Asking a tankie what the best path forward is for the US is like a black man asking a Klansman for career advice. They want to see us burn, not be better.

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[–] Seasm0ke@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Its always amazing to me.the lengths someone will go to to avoid blaming their party or candidate for a loss. The blame is not even directed to the millions of people who actively voted for the fascist, but to the political minority with the least impact on the result.

Lets face facts. The DNCs strategy to move to the right and court the mythical moderate Republican failed again. Their strategy to fund extremist Republican candidates in local races was another bet on the goodwill of the GOP voters and look they lost the Senate. They failed you.

They failed the country. They had a huge hand in creating the trump mess for their own assumed gain and yet, none of the average libs will acknowledge it. They took the votes of independents and leftists for granted and decided Liz Cheney and AIPAC would bring them victory and they failed again. Face it.

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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I suppose it's not the best. But if things go really wrong. Every LGBT migrant is welcome in my country (Spain). We have some of the most advanced laws on LGBT protection on the planet.

And while we have our share of far right that wants ti abolish LGBT rights, it is unlikely they will succeed at this even if they reach power (please, don't let this afe like milk).

[–] fern@lemmy.autism.place 10 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Nice do you take lgbt refugees or no like every other country

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[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 18 points 2 weeks ago

Now the crazies will be emboldened to assault more people.

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Funny sidestory here:

A week or so ago they had an AMA with someone in Gaza on Hexbear where someone dared to ask the question what the situation was with LGBTQI+ rights right now.

Dude replied: "oh there are no gay people in Gaza, because everyone's religious here"

Made me frown but upvotes galore and I think they now ran a pretty succesful gofundme for him

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[–] Machinist@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Jeebus. Trans machinist in Georgia? That's a hard row to hoe there, hun. I ran a shop during 2020 and about half my crew was black. The political insanity ripped it apart.

Born and raised in Alabama, we moved to a northern state this summer. You need to think hard about getting out. We are not registered as Dems, but instead independent. Probably going to remove face pics from fet. Don't fly a pride flag. Figure if you're white, you'll be okay for a while. Probably be a while before they come after LGTBQ. Maybe things get better, IDK.

Keep your head down and your powder dry.

Our family motto is: Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

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[–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 16 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Yeah where's all the fucking dipshits that were on here before yelling nonstop about Kamala not getting their vote because of the genocide in Gaza, hmm? I guess Russia doesn't need to employ them anymore.

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[–] GrabtharsHammer@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure those are both bad. But now we get to take bets on which country sees the first mass casualty event due to unsurvivable wet bulb temps, and we can over-under the year the first US state gets a taste of boiling alive in their own juices.

[–] jawa21@startrek.website 15 points 2 weeks ago

Here in GA, we've gotten close. I had to quit the job I temporarily stopped working for myself for last year because of heat exhaustion. It's bad. I fainted in 110° F temps with 89% humidity. Trump will make thus worse.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

I feel really sad for Americans right now, especially anyone who needs/might need any procedure that could be construed as "abortion" (like the many reports of women who died because hospitals wouldn't take on the liability of terminating a clearly unviable fetus), and those in the LGBTQIA+ communities.

I feel the worst for those groups, though all of you have my sympathies.

As you might infer, I am not an American, and I am unable to vote in US elections. I am Canadian, and while I can't speak for all Canadians to invite you to come join us, I will say that, abortion is legal here. Every major city has a pride event every year. There's always protests to both, as you would expect (people exercising their rights to free speech), but there's no criminality in being LGBTQIA+ nor in getting an abortion.

Personally, anyone who wants to abandon this fight and flee to the north, I don't blame you, and if we ever meet, you will be accepted by me and the people I know for who you are.

Be safe, take care of yourself.

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[–] socsa@piefed.social 10 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

All of these so called anti fascists sure do seem excited about a fascist being elected

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[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

We still have the 2nd amendment. That's the one thing conservatives will not take from us.

[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, I was telling my partner that the conservatives will probably come for our guns before the democrats. Especially if Trump gets elected. But hopefully I'm wrong.

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