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[–] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 103 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

God this sucks to watch from the other side of the world.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 72 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It sucks from the inside, too. I feel so hopeless the middle of all this insanity.

I can't do this again.

[–] tormeh@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I hope we'll be able to do this again. There are worse alternatives.

[–] Stez827@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How are there worse alternatives than having Hitler Cheeto edition as a president?

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Probably having this as a president forever.

[–] tormeh@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Exactly. Let's hope we get to have another bad US election rather than this being the last one.

[–] Stez827@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

That's fair I agree

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

It’s going to suck here too, if that makes you feel any better.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Trust me, it also sucks to watch from inside America. The sane people did everything we could.

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[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 102 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Because so many people in the United States have elected to stab themselves - and EVERYONE else along with them - with a rusty knife, out of ignorant rage and lazy ignorance.

[–] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 83 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Don't forget South Korea. Do you really think America will be on their side this time around with Dump and Kim being kissing friends?

[–] tormeh@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

South Korea gets nukes in 3, 2, 1...

[–] Ascend910@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't they already got all the technology in place and all they need is time?

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

I think so, iirc South Korea, Japan and a few european nations are considered functionally nuclear capable in that they have all the material, fascilities and scientific knowledge to assemble nukes in a very short timeframe should it become desirable.

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[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 64 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Quick analysis: the US flushed itself down the toilet.

  • Likely fact: Republicans now control all 4 towers of the castle (president, senate, house of representatives and surpreme court).

  • Conclusion: the situation allows Republicans to steamroll legislation into force.

  • Further conclusion: US voters really don't understand what they are doing.

Climate: it's bad, but one president's rule is short. Trump will withdraw from the Paris treaty and sabotage domestic attempts to curb emissions. Europe and China will continue their attempts because they haven't changed, and they want energy independence. Climate is a system with great inertia. We are beaten by the mistakes of previous decades, new generations will be beaten by our mistakes. Increasingly hard.

Ukraine: the situation is very bad. The Biden administration won approval for 60 billion of support in spring, but according to Zelensky, only 10% has been delivered so far. Unless the DoD hurries the hell out of itself, Trump will close the tap on aid that Biden secured. Trump will try diplomacy, but Putin's administration is made of a different sort of people. They are running for life while Trumpists are running for lunch. Putin will politely send him where sun doesn't shine and continue grinding meat, now with an added flavour of North Korean. Ukraine faces a very difficult choice: fight a retreating war in conditions of decreasing aid, hoping that revolutionary conditions arise in Russia... or make peace with the attacker, giving them territory. Ukraine will need all the assistance it can get from anywhere. Knowing this, and knowing the risk of a Trump re-election, I started developing a drone system 6 months ago. It has gone through many iterations and might be capable of combat in the coming month. I didn't sign up to live in a world like this, but hey, you take what you're given. :(

If the war in Ukraine gives Putin territory and peace as a result, Putin and his heirs know that you can get territory and peace with war: any place in Eastern Europe could be next.

In summer, Congress locked away the keys for leaving NATO, but Republicans now control both houses and Trump has cleansed the party of dissenters. Trump can credibly threaten to withdraw from NATO or actually do it.

Taiwan needs to find more alliances, because the US might become unreliable, and China knows this. The rest of the world needs to think if they can do without electronics during a Chinese attempt to conquer Taiwan.

Democracy in the US: will be dismantled in favour of something like Hungary. We will see ministers who are oligarchs like Musk or irresponsible liars like Kennedy. Since the storm is near-perfect, I predict that democracy will give way to oligarchy. Risk of disturbances, repressions and internal conflict will grow.

Until now, only unstable people wanted to assassinate Trump. Given these conditions, I predict that stable but ruthless people who see a danger to their future will join the game. They will reason as follows: "risk has reached certainty and there is still time to prevent outcomes". If I was working in the Secret Service, I would increase protection on Trump 10 times (unless I hated him).

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

One big difference between Hungary and the US are guns. It'll either can lead to a revolution much easier than in Hungary, or a Krystalnacht that is followed by the return of KKK-style lynchings.

For Ukraine, peace is not a real option. They can choose between war and being oppressed by Putin. And now, how they want to go out in history: in a war with glory, or under Putin's boot who tells them: "no, you're Russians, speak Russian". I refuse to call "ethnic cleansing" peace. At best, it's just the illlusion of such, because tanks are not crossing state borders.

Fascists like Trump choose their henchman based on loyalty, not skills. He will just get a lot of badly trained soldiers as basically meat shields.

[–] margaritox@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Not only that, but “peace“ deal with Putin will only benefit Putin, as it will give him time to regroup and improve his strategy, while the military aid to Ukraine stops. Then he’ll say: “oh shit! Ukraine is attacking us again! They broke the peace deal” and continue the invasion. 

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[–] pepperonisalami@sh.itjust.works 57 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I live in Taiwan....good luck for all of us

[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 29 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I live in Eastern Europe, and seriously recommend your people start researching nuclear weapons. :(

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[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

This may be misremembering, but I thought I once heard of some people in Taiwan (a small, but vocal, number) liked Trump because of his "China Bad" rhetoric.

It's not quite as spicy from my side of the world (Australia), but I really do not like the idea of our closest military ally being controlled by a fascist.

Just seems like risky business, ya know?

[–] eunieisthebus 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I think Taiwan will be fine... for now. Trump is so Anti-China I doubt the US will drop its support. Eastern Europe however is basically fucked now

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Trump is also easily bought.

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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 46 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

The most annoying thing over the next few years is going to be listening to:

"What happened to my helthcare?" "You voted for Trump who promised to take it away. " "But I didn't think it would effect me!"

"Why are the prices of groceries so high?" "You voted for Trump who promised to deport all the illegal farm workers who picked your food for low wages." "But I didn't think it would effect me!"

"Why did my daughter/wife/girlfriend/mother die in a hospital parking lot?" "You voted for Trump who promised to make life saving healthcare for women illegal nation wide." "But I didn't think it would effect me!"

"What happened to the minimum wage?" "You voted for Trump who promised to lower it." "But I didn't think it would effect me!"

"What happened to the Palestinians?" "You voted for Trump/voted for a third party candidate which allowed Trump to rise to power then he gave Netanyahu the go ahead to wipe them out." "But I didn't think that would happen to my family!"

Suck it up. This is your bed. You shat it in. Now lie there and be quiet. We're tired of your bullshit.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

"Why did graphics cards quadruple in price?"

"You voted for Trump, who supported China steamrolling Taiwan, and now all of TSMCs foundries are bricked."

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[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 9 points 2 weeks ago

!leopardsatemyface@lemmy.world was revived at just the right moment

Unfortunately

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[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Enjoy president Vance America. Trump will die soon or will just Golf while Vance and his project 2025 people run the show

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oohh, totally forgot about Taiwan

So that will be a new Chinese provence within 4 years

Ukraine will be new Russian territory soon

Palestine will be new Israel soon

Man, the joy

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[–] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

Anyone darker than this in America --> ✋🏼

[–] tyo_ukko@sopuli.xyz 18 points 2 weeks ago

If it is of any solace, the global oligarchs will be safe and well through all that is about to unfold.

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