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[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 22 points 2 weeks ago

Not even Ukraine thinks it has killed 700,000 Russians. The Kyiv Post article claims over 700,000 casualties. Most of those casualties don't need a grave.

It's a bit misleading to put that number in the headline. You might normally think "losses" could mean casualties, but put next to "grave" it implies dead.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

A 20-page guide? It takes 20 pages to tell them to dig a big trench, drop in the bodies, cover them with lime and put the dirt back on top?

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe half of it is the Korean translation?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Apparently it's a bunch of unnecessary exacting specifications for what is just a body landfill.

[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

or maybe they are going to start using bioweapons and want the soil to stay fertile.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'd have thought Russians were born knowing how to dig mass graves, like a cat that covers its own shit.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Hubi 14 points 2 weeks ago

And about 4-5% of their male population eligible for military service.

[–] kikutwo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

They should toss in Putin.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

These aren't probably news by itself, these were news when these laws and guidelines themselves appeared around 2021 when it was suggested by everyone but wasn't clear if Russia starts things and it was used as a proof it would. I'm yet to hear this specific law getting used though, and article kinda shoulders that.

The Kremlin has begun distributing an updated instruction manual to military units engaged in its war in Ukraine on the preparation and maintenance of mass graves.

That contradicts what written on the cover - last paragraph dedicates it to (probably) law students becoming candidates of science, a step before becoming doctors and after getting bachelor's and master's degree. But I suppose it's formal and doesn't mean much. I just wonder who the fuck would waste small amount of hours at that level of education on that niche subject that no one but lawyers specified in military cases gonna use. As a practical guide with all the beaurocratic measures to dig graves in the legal, specific way - yeah, they are mostly needed on the frontlines. But I have my doubts anyone would care to do such things by the book and am surprised there's no moss-covered standard from the soviet 70s to cover that like it usually happens.

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Those aren't deaths, it includes injured. The death count is surprisingly low, like 70,000 or something like that

[–] Hubi 6 points 2 weeks ago

That is only the number that has been independently verified from online obituaries and funeral announcements. It should be mentioned that it is much lower than even the most conservative estimates. The actual number of deaths is most likely closer to 200.000, though exact estimates are basically impossible.